Thread: Suehiro Stones

Originally Posted by celticcrusader

I think you are reading my question incorrectly, there's nothing wrong with the 20K it works perfectly well I use it to hone hundreds of razors each year, and the stone gets lapped on a regular basis, I'm just wondering does the stone absorb any water as it doesn't appear to.

Jamie, why not let it dry completely, weight it, then give it a soak for say 15-30 minutes, wipe it off and re-weigh it? A sensitive scale should tell you the answer.

Cheers, Steve

Originally Posted by ScottGoodman

I can tell you this, I have had one of their 3K stones for 10+ years and will say its a good stone. It is a very soft stone, I imagine it is to imitate clay based naturals. Its thirsty and must stay wet or it will start to clog. I use this stone a lot with knife making, less on razors. Which series is it...I have no clue. I just know its a 8x3 cream colored Suehiro on a cedar or similar wood base.

Soft + yellow\cream + 3000:
1.Suehiro new Cerax 3000 new
- middle soft stone, softer than naniwa SuperStone.
Two mods:
with plastic base. https://www.suehiro-toishi.com/en/ce.../cr-3000-y-re/
or combo with blue 1000 jis cerax https://www.suehiro-toishi.com/en/ce...ax/cr-3800-re/

2.Suehiro Kouga 3000
- softer, with wood stand.
.. Due to appearance it must be this one
https://www.suehiro-toishi.com/en/gyomu/3000/
..no base edition https://www.suehiro-toishi.com/en/gyomu/3000-35/
I bouight my stone there Suehiro 'Kouga' #3000 finishing stone. Small. : Tools from Japan, Japanese woodworking tools direct from Japan.
name "kouga" -- the same source.

3.Suehiro SKG
(double sided: 1000 + 3000) - cheapest one. I didn't use it - don't know about it. It's a softer than cerax new and not so pure was said.
https://www.suehiro-toishi.com/en/kitchen/skg-43/

Originally Posted by markbignosekelly

I only soak the lower grit Naniwas. My 10k is used as a splash and go too.

Dude, you're killing me lol. We've already established you are more than a pretty face and yet, it's my higher grit stones that I have to soak! Too darn funny.

For someones HAD:

Suehiro G-8 8000 GC
is quite nice stone , especially for knives with rouge carbide structure (didn' luck with VG-10 knives).
need to be soaked, soft stone..
like nani superstone in hardness or softer, but not so loose as cerax 1000\3000 - it's a lightweight stone with dense surface.
[rus] Suehiro G-8 GC (-- pics of a cutting edge)

I use Cerax 8080 for razors instead because.. yup.. to greedy.
Bit softer, bit loose, need to be soaked. WA insted GC
I don't like nani - too dense and too plastic tactile feelings.

From GMN i like the most GMN-150 because it's easiest to use among all three of GMN stones:
sometimes they work rouger and make ugly scratches --that happens because their density and hardness.
Make surface clean from greese and smooth, less pressure, higher accuracy - hellps to solve.
But looks like i don't need it(GMN-150) for knives or chisels. For razors - I have naturals.
8000 jis is enought for me. +\- nat. finish, of course

=======
Debado series
https://www.suehiro-toishi.com/en/un...bado-3-series/
too greedy to buy it -_-
It's a new series that started ..this year as i remember.
Splash'n'Go.
Ryou, Taiga, etc - no info. All i have: it's not a GMN stones.

New Kouseki
https://www.suehiro-toishi.com/en/kouseki/srk-10000/
omg.. just saw a moment ago.


So.. deluxe, chemical, kitchen series - it's about rouge or cheap stones.
Looks like - that's all.

Originally Posted by Steve56

Jamie, why not let it dry completely, weight it, then give it a soak for say 15-30 minutes, wipe it off and re-weigh it? A sensitive scale should tell you the answer.

Cheers, Steve

Steve, the advice with the SG 20K never soak the stone plenty of water and away you go, I have Chosera stones including a Snow White 8K and a Naniwa Super stone 12K, I have used them for quite a few years, I have never soaked any of my stones, never had a single stone warp or shrink on me.

Yeah...Having kept my 4/8 Norton in the water it's whole life, I decided to soak my Naniwan 12k as I began with it.
Was quite scary, really. It visibly warped. Thought I had lost it!

Let it dry out, flattened it, and it was OK. Now, I pool water on the surface for 5-10 minutes and use it.
I always lap it after use while it's wet. Just me.

That stone in the OP is intriguing, for certain!

Originally Posted by earcutter

Dude, you're killing me lol. We've already established you are more than a pretty face and yet, it's my higher grit stones that I have to soak! Too darn funny.

Ha! As long as we're all getting great edges that's all that matters!
Next time I do a touch up I'll soak my 10k and see if I notice a difference.

Originally Posted by markbignosekelly

Ha! As long as we're all getting great edges that's all that matters!
Next time I do a touch up I'll soak my 10k and see if I notice a difference.

I put about an inch of water in my relatively large kitchen sink and then place my 10K in with the face (cutting side) down. The water drains slowly so... if you do forget, it's not a repeat of my 4/8K or Sharptonns 12. But it keeps the face wet for about as long as you could take.

It's a weird system I know. And how you mimic a slow leak or whatever might be interesting, but I swear it makes my 10K a better stone to work with - and that's saying something for me.

I'll be genuinely interested to hear your take after giving your stone a 5 minute soak - or whatever you deem reasonable. There is a very strong possibility that I'm high, but I don't think so.

Originally Posted by sharptonn

Yeah...Having kept my 4/8 Norton in the water it's whole life, I decided to soak my Naniwan 12k as I began with it.
Was quite scary, really. It visibly warped. Thought I had lost it!

Let it dry out, flattened it, and it was OK. Now, I pool water on the surface for 5-10 minutes and use it.
I always lap it after use while it's wet. Just me.

That stone in the OP is intriguing, for certain!

Am I losing my mind or were we not at one time told to soak our Nani stones?

Yeah....But then, we have been told SO many things!