Thread: I think I'm close but...

Continuing on with my honing journey and taking what I've learned from the advice I've been given here as well as the individual I know who taught me how to hone, I tried my hand at a NOS wedge blade this weekend.

This blade barely had a bevel to it, and it was effectively dull.

I spent two hours on this: 1 hour on the 1k King and then another hour on the 4k/8k Norton followed by pasted strop --> linen --> leather.

1k King:

I tried circles (clockwise/counter clockwise), followed by edge leading/trailing strokes with the blade at an angle, and finally finishing off with edge leading strokes with the blade straight. I was keeping an eye on the bevel using my Belomo loupe and I did see the bevel taking shape, however, I was quite distraught after the 1k as the blade couldn't shave any hair off my arm. I moved on to the 4k/8k.

4k/8k Norton

Similar technique on the 4k. I definitely noticed metal particles in the water as I was doing this. After about half an hour I got the blade to where I could shave arm hair, however one side was definitely sharper than the other side and unfortunately the bevel wasn't straight across, it was wavy (tried to capture this in pics). Bevel under the loupe had much finer striations however.

Spent maybe 15mins on the 8k with just edge leading/trailing strokes. Blade got a bit sharper and the bevel striations appeared smoother. At this point I figured I'd see what I kind of an edge I procured and then try again post shave.

After stropping, I was quite surprised to have received a decent shave from the blade. No tugging or pulling, but it also wasn't exactly a close shave either (this was WTG). Past attempts at honing gave me a very uncomfortable shave so I feel like I have finally made some progress but clearly I still have some issues.

How do I proceed from this point? Do I go back to the 1k or spend more time on the 4k/8k? How do I get a straight bevel rather than one that's wavy (I'm assuming this is an issue of pressure)? How do I fix the issue of one side of the blade being sharper than the other?

I know nothing about whatever type of blade that is. But the wavy could be from the grind of the blade or from uneven pressure. Where is the rest of the blade

We’re you using the stropper to hone?

You don't necessarily have to fix it. If it shaves uniformly it doesn't need fixing
As Gasman says, it could be uneven grind or pressure that made the grind uneven.
For me, the safest way to hone a blade, any type of blade is to make sure the whole blade shaves arm hair after the 1k stone. I expect most people's arm hair are somewhat similar. That's the 90% of the job, the rest of the stones come after a successful bevel and requires far fewer passes.
To tell you the truth I also have a blade like this, and intend to do what you were doing, but I expect it will take some time, so I'm postponing it.

Originally Posted by RezDog

We’re you using the stropper to hone?

So I started out with the stropper attached and then I ended up removing it as I couldn't do the circles with it or hone at an angle. Don't your stroppers widen towards the end?

Originally Posted by Vasilis

You don't necessarily have to fix it. If it shaves uniformly it doesn't need fixing
As Gasman says, it could be uneven grind or pressure that made the grind uneven.
For me, the safest way to hone a blade, any type of blade is to make sure the whole blade shaves arm hair after the 1k stone. I expect most people's arm hair are somewhat similar. That's the 90% of the job, the rest of the stones come after a successful bevel and requires far fewer passes.
To tell you the truth I also have a blade like this, and intend to do what you were doing, but I expect it will take some time, so I'm postponing it.

I'm a perfectionist so seeing a wavy bevel really bothers me My guess is that pressure is the issue as I did experiment with different pressure as I went along. I'll have to work on this the next time I have a go at this.

I was not able to shave hair after the 1k which is why I was surprised that the blade was capable of shaving at all but I understand why shaving off the 1k is important before progressing. Should I go back to the 1K now?

These blades hone, more or less, just like a straight razor. If anything they should be easier as you don't have to worry about a shoulder or scales but it's been many years since I attempted to hone a straight.

My strippers anre quite flat and sit well on the hone. I also have a modified shavette that works well as a handle. It was a wreck hair shaper in its first life. The spine is quite wide and it did not take much coaxing to get it to take the wedge blades. I have honed both by pushing the blade on the hone and by using a handle. Without the handle it is very difficult to concentrate the effort on the edge, with the handle you can use torque to your advantage. Also with a swooping stroke you can bring a very mild smile to the blade, which I also like.