Thread: PSA, Shapton Glass 1k

I picked up one of these 1k Glass Stones because....well....at $39 shipped how could I not? I am very impressed with the stone after just two times setting a bevel. Very very fast cutting without leaving deep scratches. Better than my chosera 1k? I don’t know yet but it is definitely sexier.

Actually the Shapton Glass 2k has replaced all my 1k bevel setters. The Glass HR series is so ridiculously fast that you can use a finer stone than you normally would at any given stage of honing.

If you’re learning to hone though, the speed of these hones is not your friend .... Yet.

They are very fast indeed Steve. I haven’t found the shapton GS to be aggressive at all though in that the scratch pattern is comparatively very shallow. I know of guys who also set bevels on a norton 4K but that just has never been for me. I enjoy the speed of this shapton 1k and similarly the chosera 1k aka green brick for setting bevels. You’re right though about speed. When you are first stating you can cause more problems than you are solving by using a fast and aggressive stone.

Not saying you’re wrong Steve for using a 2k especially given how fast these stones are but to each their own.

Try the 2k Glass vs other 1K - you will be pleasantly surprised.

I’ve always questioned the norm, part of my education I suppose. But why is a normally accepted bevel setter defined as 1k? I’ve set bevels on full hollows with a Shapton Glass HR 4k. I’ve also set bevels on razors from EU with ‘U’ shaped bevels with a 325 diamond plate - with a loupe. I’ve set bevels on diamond plate slurry on a fast jnat.

You have to use whatever it takes to make the bevels meet in a line within a reasonable amount of time. There’s no magic in spending hours to set a bevel. Finishing, well maybe.

Fast stones are better, and I suspect Glen has every Shapton HR Glass in his closet, lol. If a fast stone progression saves just 5 minutes per razor, that time adds up if you have a dozen on the bench, that’s an hour saved.

Seriously investigating that Shapton Glass HR 2k, Steve-I swear you guys are going to bankrupt me! Just curious what it brings to the (honing) table that my trusty Chosera 1k doesn't have? Speed? Smoothness?

Originally Posted by Steve56

Try the 2k Glass vs other 1K - you will be pleasantly surprised.

I’ve always questioned the norm, part of my education I suppose. But why is a normally accepted bevel setter defined as 1k? I’ve set bevels on full hollows with a Shapton Glass HR 4k. I’ve also set bevels on razors from EU with ‘U’ shaped bevels with a 325 diamond plate - with a loupe. I’ve set bevels on diamond plate slurry on a fast jnat.

You have to use whatever it takes to make the bevels meet in a line within a reasonable amount of time. There’s no magic in spending hours to set a bevel. Finishing, well maybe.

Fast stones are better, and I suspect Glen has every Shapton HR Glass in his closet, lol. If a fast stone progression saves just 5 minutes per razor, that time adds up if you have a dozen on the bench, that’s an hour saved.

I am all for questioning the norm. Years ago they didn’t even consider an Arkansas stone fine enough for razors and too slow. A few of us tried anyways and today they are used by many. If you don’t question things you never grow right?

Originally Posted by ScoutHikerDad

Seriously investigating that Shapton Glass HR 2k, Steve-I swear you guys are going to bankrupt me! Just curious what it brings to the (honing) table that my trusty Chosera 1k doesn't have? Speed? Smoothness?

Should be a little finer while still just as fast.

I bought the 1k, 2k, 4k and 10k.
Ive taken an ebay razor to the 1k and sfraightened up the bevel a bit quicker than some have taken. You can feel the 1k cutting better/faster.
I did a bevel set on the 2k and was impressed as it didnt take much longer if any then using the green brick. YMMV.

I jumped from 4k to 10k using a bit of slurry and it made the jump without too much extra work. I wanted to try and shave off the 10k edge but went to a jnat after.

So im working my way thru these glass stones. Im liking them but still have a ways to go. It fun. When i get the time! Damn Holidays make my work longer.

This is a heavy lift done with the Shapton Glass HR series, up to 4k. The razor is a 6/8 St Joanis 45 that had been quite neglected, it had a small chip in the heel and the end of the nose had a chip and was corroded badly enough to be ragged. It has a good bit of pitting, with a couple of pits at the bevel. It’s one of those that will never be pretty again and never worth the time that you put in it, but I like old French steel and I’d like to think that whoever made it would see it returned to usefulness and maybe smile. Several weeks ago I started by soaking the horn scales in neatsfoot oil and polishing them up a bit.

I dry sanded the blade with 320, 600, and 1500 grit w/d sandpaper, then used some 3M metal polish and a coat of Ren wax to hopefully seal up the pits. I didn’t want a high polish because of the pitting. Then all the rough work was done with a mellow 325 DMT (not shown), re-shaping and smoothing the nose, removing the chips and edge pits, and forming the bevels which were worse on one side as seems common with old razors. One layer of 1 mil Kapton was used.

Next up Shapton Glass HR, double thick 500, 1k, 2k, 4k then 10 canvas/20 leather and HHT for bevel set. As usual I had to go back and pick up a place or two but in the end the razor could not resist the Glass stones. Perfect HHT at 4k heel to toe.

The pre-finisher was the kiita on the stand with 1200 Atoma generated slurry, a very fast and surprisingly fine stone, it can finish a razor itself. Then the new karasu that artived yesterday put the finishing touches on the razor and it’s silent HHT root in or out. Shave test soon, I’m interested in how the karasu makes the edge feel, it seems very nice.

End result, maybe just another old razor, but you could shave for the rest of your life with this if you were so inclined. Good, hard steel.