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Thread: Took a gamble on Thury
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08-09-2022, 01:54 PM #1
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Thanked: 43Took a gamble on Thury
Well, I managed to snag this from a snipe bid a few weeks ago. Not really cheap but a decent price for what it is.
It appeared to be a Y/G Thury.
After a quick cleanup of box and stone it is indeed a Thury. I'm not sure it is Y/G though.It seems to go more yellow with water. I have never seen a Yellow so any help would be great.
Typical Y/G's the color is almost enhanced with a litlle water, this one seems more yellow wet.
My question is what is the dark color in banding of Thury's? I have seen the discoloration on some but what mineral is it?
It does not seem detrimental in any way.
The edge produced from it is excellent and typical of very good Thury's.
Slurry is white -ish, typical Y-Y/G.
Wet, looks more Yellow,
Slurry,
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08-09-2022, 03:38 PM #2
Looks to be a yellow green.
Can't tell you about mineral composition.
But there are numerous Thurigan stones, that have marbling of different colors.
Typically.... The darker, the harder they are.
I have a dark and a light blue Thurigan, and a blue/green, and green, combo hone.
Fits the Barber's Jem, dimensions. 5.5x2"
No box, though.
Still waiting to stumble across a yellow green.Mike
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08-09-2022, 05:51 PM #3
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Thanked: 169It was really inexpensive if you consider what a yg thuri in the box with a rubber would be in that form factor with escher box and label. Like super cheap. Some just have much more interesting surface features while others show almost nothing. Some even have fossil features.
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08-09-2022, 06:04 PM #4
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Thanked: 43Nice stone!
The only Y/G's I have owned were very pure and uniform. I wish I had kept my Barbers gem in Y/G.
Fortunately I was incredibly lucky to find another in B/G that I will kep forever.
When I seen this I was pretty sure and it is probably considered a Y/G, performance is top notch.
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08-09-2022, 06:19 PM #5
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Thanked: 43This is what I was thinking too.
Nice box with graphics as well.
Can't find much about it as AHC was mostly synthetic Barber hones. Perhaps this predates their synthetic Barber hone days?
Minneapolis is odd too.
Its old and it performs like a great Thury should.
I would say it is now my best Barber hone and I have a few good ones(synthetic) but being a 5x2 Thury with a rubber of 1/2x1x2 with it and from AHC
Lid had instructions as well,
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08-09-2022, 06:45 PM #6
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Thanked: 43Just found a reference to American Hone Company in Minneapolis dated 1893, Third line down.
Long before Olean NY or Moravia Iowa.
Awesome!!
https://books.google.ca/books?id=hoh...apolis&f=false
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08-11-2022, 01:32 AM #7
Lovely hone and I am certain a great finisher. A piece of razor hone history, for certain!
Nice find. Take care to preserve labels and box.
Looks yellow to me.
Enjoy!
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08-11-2022, 03:35 PM #8
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Thanked: 43Well, after some exhaustive digging this is probably not a Thury.
It behaves and creates fantastic edges on par with excellent Thury examples I have had and still own.
Under more magnification it is not the same compostion although similar.
It is most likely from 1893-94 prior to AHC being bought and moved to Olean N.Y
First mention I have found of Olean is 1891.
Minneapolis is mentioned from 1892-94.
The hone specifically mentioned in 1893,
Right side of page, so this was sourced in the U.S somewhere.
If this stone exists in the U.S why was it ever discontinued as the performance is stellar.
Had one of the best shaves in near 20 years with a straight from an edge from this hone.
https://www.google.ca/books/edition/...sec=frontcover
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08-27-2022, 04:52 PM #9
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Thanked: 43A little further into this thing and more testing.
Composition is very close to Thury.
Stone absorbs water at first but keeps it for a decent amount of time like a medium jnat. Thury's dont absorb really.
Most slates don't really absorb anything.
After some thought I was thinking it could be a man made from Thury dust. Only examples I have seen have been much darker in color and JGES only started this in1943 or so. This is from 1893.
There is what looks like a manganese line that encompasses one end. Under magnification it is black and not a void at all.
This indicates a natural stone.
The elements look natural as well. Most synthetics have a "blocky" looking ingredients from grinding prior to forming, this doesn't.
Direct comparison to my B/G Thury (an excellent example IMO) with my most consistant razor acrosss any medium on which to hone, this hone improves the edge (water only testing) from the Thury. Not by alot but certainly noticable.
It is a quandry for sure.
I only know of one Geologist type guy in my area but hopefully can get some type of answer from him - eventually.
I have reached out to Sebastian (Doorsh)for some insight as it is beyond my ability and expertise to conclude what type of stone this is and if it is even natural. I believe it is but...what is it?
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08-27-2022, 08:44 PM #10
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Thanked: 43Will add some photos if anyone cares.
First two are B/G Thury, these are bout 80x actual mag.
Next new stone,
Manganese type line,