Thread: Stainless steel razors on Shapton Pros.

Originally Posted by RezDog

I think you have that backwards. Not all steels can go s fine as 30K grit. Also geometry aside, as you go up into the very high grits one can thin the edge down very fine and it becomes very fragile.

I think you might be right, it's either the razor could handle it or the stone could not cut the stainless steel efficiently. So I've pulled out the Proyan 15k and did 20 laps on it and tried to shave, it was not as keen as my other razors off the Shapton 30K, but I have to say it was a comfortable one.

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Titan Razors can't handle that edge they barely shave

To be honest most razors can't handle a 30k edge, Want to see what it is really capable of find a NY made double hollow preferably made in the Little Valley area
They are cheap and easy to find, the steel and temper can show you what a real 30k edge is

There are other singular razors that can hold that type of edge but not brands or areas like the Little Valley area brands they are your best bet of getting one that will match that hone

I think my Dovos and Boker can actually handle that but only 5 to 7 strokes, no more. It can be over done so easily that I tried with 10 laps on the first go and the edge was full of micro chips just after ~10 shaves.

Could you please share maybe one or two examples? There ain't many stores selling straight razors in Australia, I'm not even aware of any physical stores at all. So currently I'm playing a hit or miss game.

Originally Posted by Johntoad57

Haven't ever heard of a Titan straight razor. Hope you figure it out.

I actually don't know much about them neither. I bought their most expensive one, but I don't really like its ground at all. Saw it from this form and decided to give it a shot but it turned out to be bummer.

Originally Posted by PaulFLUS

A lot of work to go on that tang but getting that thing ground to where it will hone to shave ready is work. I can't imagine why you'd try to undo all that.

My skin is super sensitive, 3 passes would be too many. So I would always try to reduce the passes to the least and as light as possible, straight edge would be better this case. I have tried the Titan's smile edge but I did not like most of its aspects. It's probably a combination of multiple factors, but you know, I have only tried that many times. I might eventually prefer a smile edge, but so far, it's not quite there yet.

I do understand it's lots of efforts to get something like what in your pic #1 to shave ready. But with Titan, it wasn't the case. After I get it shave ready, the spine is no better than the KN razor below. Unlike your example, Titan's spine is straight, the smile was just created using something like an EdgePro. The geometry was off quite a bit. I'm sorry that I could not see any craftsmanship in it at all.

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I had to fix the spine, why not straighten the edge at the same time? The only thing was that I under estimated the effort needed. The steel was much harder than any other razors I have, it's probably really HRC 70, if not really that high, it will be very close to it. So it super hard to hone, and I had to press it super hard on the diamond plate to fix the spine or it would just keep skidding.

Anyway, I'm happier with it than before.

I'll try again with stropping on 0.1micron diamonds before next shave and see how it goes. If the shave was great too, then I'll try go to the S30K for 20 passes and shave. It must be either the stone or the razor.

Titan razor is one step above. Gold dollar. Or maybe two steps as they put wood scales on them.

The time and energy, and money you've put into those worthless chunks of steel, would've been better used on restoration of a good, vintage blade that will hold an edge and shave like your wanting them too.

Just saying.

RSO's from China have always been tossed at us here. Not even a worthwhile subject.
A fact which was established long ago.

A sticky on the subject here from 2010. I do think Bruno was being too kind! . A view of the likes and thanks might convince some.
Still, lots of stubborn folk waste time and forum space on a regular basis......

https://sharprazorpalace.com/razors/...ar-razors.html

Originally Posted by mrjin

I think my Dovos and Boker can actually handle that but only 5 to 7 strokes, no more. It can be over done so easily that I tried with 10 laps on the first go and the edge was full of micro chips just after ~10 shaves.

Could you please share maybe one or two examples? There ain't many stores selling straight razors in Australia, I'm not even aware of any physical stores at all. So currently I'm playing a hit or miss game.

Yeah your not going to find one in a store
No your Dovo and Boker are not nearly as good off a 30k as the fine grained steel found in Vintage NY razors

Look for brands like

Kinfolks
Cattaraugus
Thistle
Olean
Genco / Geneva

Look for the NY stamps, this isn't hard and they are often quite cheap on the used markets

Not sure where you got the idea of 5-7 strokes on a 30K besides on my vids, keep in mind that is after a proper set up on the full grit ladder

YUou mighty also try what we call a Micro-Bevel after the 15 or 16k

Originally Posted by Gasman

Titan razor is one step above. Gold dollar. Or maybe two steps as they put wood scales on them.

I actually like the feel of the scales on my Titan, but it's a pity I cannot really look at them...