Thread: New Escher hones

Hello everyone. Its been awhile since i have posted. I was wondering if anyone has tried the new Escher-thurigen hones offered by Escher Water Hone - Thuringian Sharpening Stone . If so, how do they compare with the older Eschers?


Regards,
Jim E.

Wow, thanks for sharing the link. If the stones are good quality, those seem like some very good prices. I'd also love to hear if anyone knows anything about them.

I thought this was interesting and somewhat amusing.

[QUOTE][Its extraordinary fineness and hardness is not met by any other natural stone — 10,000 to 12,000 grit. /QUOTE]

I can think of a number of people who would disagree with that statement.

Originally Posted by OLD_SCHOOL

I thought this was interesting and somewhat amusing.

Its extraordinary fineness and hardness is not met by any other natural stone — 10,000 to 12,000 grit.

I can think of a number of people who would disagree with that statement.

I am curious about this statement in his description,"The Escher is NOT recommended as a final hone if you have used the natural Belgian garnet stone in advance. We are often asked about this combination use and can, at best, offer the advice that Belgian hones produce an edge without burrs, therefore that edge is already drawn to a more ideal finish, not gaining any advantage using the Escher".

I imagine a lot of knowledgeable people would disagree with that?

Originally Posted by JimmyH-AD

I am curious about this statement in his description,"The Escher is NOT recommended as a final hone if you have used the natural Belgian garnet stone in advance. We are often asked about this combination use and can, at best, offer the advice that Belgian hones produce an edge without burrs, therefore that edge is already drawn to a more ideal finish, not gaining any advantage using the Escher".

I imagine a lot of knowledgeable people would disagree with that?

Jimmy, I do disagree with those statements myself. I do own a old Escher and also own the blue and yellow belgian coticules. i was asking if anyone has knowledge of these hones so that I could recommend one to a friend on a budget. That is if they do indeed hold up to being similar in quality as the old Eschers.


Jim

With so much incorrect and misleading information by the seller, I would not be willing to be gambling with my money. There are old blocks of thuringian stones that are being cut into hones these days, but Kees and others who sell such honed occasionally have noted that often there are inclusions and they need to inspect each stone individually and return quite a few.
As far as the fineness as with any natural stone it depends on the particular piece, but the consensus seems to be that the new ones are not quite as fine as the old ones. Whether it's good for your friend, or not, only he can tell and only after he tries it.

Oh these are NOT Escher, just as if make a coffee it's not Starbucks.

Originally Posted by gugi

With so much incorrect and misleading information by the seller, I would not be willing to be gambling with my money. There are old blocks of thuringian stones that are being cut into hones these days, but Kees and others who sell such honed occasionally have noted that often there are inclusions and they need to inspect each stone individually and return quite a few.
As far as the fineness as with any natural stone it depends on the particular piece, but the consensus seems to be that the new ones are not quite as fine as the old ones. Whether it's good for your friend, or not, only he can tell and only after he tries it.

Oh these are NOT Escher, just as if make a coffee it's not Starbucks.

Gugi, You have a very valid point. Looking on fleabay now to see if there are any decent hones out there.


Jim E.

I also have old Eschers in Blue, Blue Grey and Light Green. I think the one labeled light green is a yellow green but whatever....... I have a Thuringan that is a Mueller's and it is a good stone. Not as good as the old ones but good. Don has a couple of vintage Eschers in the classifieds. Not for someone on a budget but they are there.

Originally Posted by CaptMdnght

Jimmy, I do disagree with those statements myself. I do own a old Escher and also own the blue and yellow belgian coticules. i was asking if anyone has knowledge of these hones so that I could recommend one to a friend on a budget. That is if they do indeed hold up to being similar in quality as the old Eschers.


Jim

Based on my experience I also disagree with the statement but I haven't been at it long enough to be confident in my assessment. I have gone to a Blue Grey Escher after a Coticule with many razors and have had good results.

There was some discussion here about these a little while ago.

http://straightrazorpalace.com/advan...9-eschers.html

James.