No problem zib... FWIW, I'm really really digging my vintage thuringian quite a bit. I don't think I've yet used it to it's full potential, but I like the edges off of it quite a bit better than the coticule alone or the chinese 12k. It's also way more fun to use. It's much softer and smoother feeling than the coticule or chinese 12k, which both feel hard and scratchy to use. I also really like the size of it a lot. At 6x1, it feels perfect in my hand for finishing. The only size I could imagine liking better for a finisher (at this point in my honing journey) might be 6x1.5 - just a tad wider. But really, I'd have to try and compare to see for sure. I might still prefer the 6x1 after trying, but for now, this is just right (for me)