Thread: Nagura Pr0n...

So I got in my three new nagura. I got a Mejiro (whiteeye--the TOTALLY white one), a Tenjou (Heaven--Kind of stripey) and Botan (???--Kind of yellowish). The Mejiro is supposed to be as fine as the Koma, the finest nagura from the Sanjou mikawa mine (the source for all true nagura...not, odly enough, Nagura Mountain...), the Tenjou is fine but it has stripes so it's a different seam, and the Botan is fast but a little coarse...The Tenjou is my favorite to look at, for sure....
I'll let you know how they work as I get to using them. Exciting!

This IS exciting! Keep us posted on your results.

Very interested in their use and feel. Beautiful stones I might add

I'm guessing their value is based on their color? the less color the higher they like to charge?

Hey JimR, are you using one of these Nagura stones to make your super thick slurry on that Japanese hone in your other thread?

Originally Posted by joke1176

Hey JimR, are you using one of these Nagura stones to make your super thick slurry on that Japanese hone in your other thread?

Nope--I'm using the Nakayama slurry stone Kawaguchi-sensei gave me for that. Strictly by the book on that hone...Kawaguchi-sensei being the book.

I AM using the Botan to make slurry for repair-work, though...it cuts super fast, and leaves a really nice haze. And I have used the Mejiro to make a finishing slurry for a harder razor on my 8K. It seems to work well for that, in my limited experience. I'm still playing around with them, but I feel like they might be very useful in specific situations.

It'll take time, though, lots of time...

This thread is a gold mine!!!

I just got a Nakayama, and it came with a Nagura. I thought for sure I'd never figure out what it was.

Judging by both the appearance, and the fact that the kanji on my nagura is identical to the kanji on your Tenjou, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that's what it came with...

That thing cuts FAST too... I learned that after it took the kanji off of my Nakayama... Oh well, I was going to lap it anyways.

I don't really want to use it on my Nakayama now though, because as you mentioned, it's way too aggressive for finishing (though if I were a Japanese carpenter... I probably would be using it with the Nakayama). I don't have any other naturals in my progression either...

I'm going to to horrible things with this stone and a synthetic. I'm also going to do slightly less horrible things with it and my C12k. The stone stays though. It's awesome.

I know, I'm a tease. I shall post pics when the camera is charged, I just couldn't wait to post about this. I read your blog on these, too. I agree, they DO smell good

This is really great stuff.

I have been playing with a nagura stone from Japanese Woodworker and a Coticule rubbing stone on my Coticule, Escher, Asagi, Kiita and a Chinese 12K going from a heavy slurry to a light slurry and then just water for a while now.

Can't wait to hear the techniques you guys use and the results with the different types of razors.

Thanks!!

Lynn

So I don't understand.

Do these stones make a slurry from the stone you use them on, or do they break down themselves to create the slurry? Or does it depend on the stone you are using them on?

I use a diamond plate on my Asagi if I want to create a slurry. To be frank, I doubt there would be a nagura hard enough to work up an asagi slurry on my stone - the best I would get would be the nagura slurrying itself, and what's the point of that?

James.

Originally Posted by Jimbo

So I don't understand.

Do these stones make a slurry from the stone you use them on, or do they break down themselves to create the slurry? Or does it depend on the stone you are using them on?

I use a diamond plate on my Asagi if I want to create a slurry. To be frank, I doubt there would be a nagura hard enough to work up an asagi slurry on my stone - the best I would get would be the nagura slurrying itself, and what's the point of that?

James.

Please forgive the new guy if I make a mistake here, but my understanding is that - like you said - you would work up a nagura slurry on the asagi and hone with that. But you go through a progression of, say, 3 naguras, e.g., from 'coarser' (Botan or Teijou) to 'finer' (Mejiro) to 'finest' (Koma), and then finish with a slurry created directly on the asagi with somethng like a diamond plate.

Or something like that....

Very nice nagura Jim! What is the plural of Nagura? Naguri, Naguras, or Nagura?

If I am ask, what was your final polisher Zethlent? Just curious.


Take Care,
Richard