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    I usually finish on my Maruichi, but I'm not sure thats such a cost effective stone...! The Charnley Forest stones also put a great edge on a razor.

    I do agree with Randy, Jimmy and others though, the 12k edge is really good and is definately shaving sharp. I recently got a set of Naniwas and I love the 12k edge. The Maruichi doesnt make the edge sharper, but it does add smoothness and makes the edge feel a lot softer. Its literally just the final finish on an already great edge.

    Also, sharpness is not done with high grit stones. A finisher is just that, the final finish on a sharp edge. So if your razor isnt sharp at the 12k level, adding a higher grit stone wont make it any sharper, it'll just polish a dull edge. The sharpening is done on the 1k and 4k stones, the 8k and higher are just refining that sharp edge.

    Good luck and keep us posted!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stubear View Post
    I usually finish on my Maruichi, but I'm not sure thats such a cost effective stone...!
    Good luck and keep us posted!
    Oh but they are so beautiful

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stubear View Post
    I usually finish on my Maruichi, but I'm not sure thats such a cost effective stone...! The Charnley Forest stones also put a great edge on a razor.

    I do agree with Randy, Jimmy and others though, the 12k edge is really good and is definately shaving sharp. I recently got a set of Naniwas and I love the 12k edge. The Maruichi doesnt make the edge sharper, but it does add smoothness and makes the edge feel a lot softer. Its literally just the final finish on an already great edge.

    Also, sharpness is not done with high grit stones. A finisher is just that, the final finish on a sharp edge. So if your razor isnt sharp at the 12k level, adding a higher grit stone wont make it any sharper, it'll just polish a dull edge. The sharpening is done on the 1k and 4k stones, the 8k and higher are just refining that sharp edge.

    Good luck and keep us posted!
    +1 Very well put.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwarvenChef View Post
    Oh but they are so beautiful
    Indeed, and if you want one and can afford one, there's no reason not to get it.

    If practicality was all that mattered when I consider a purchase or acquisition, I'd have a whole LOT more room in my house, LOL!

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    Thanks to all fo all the good info..

    Was just reading the thread on Japanese Naturals. Yikes! Looks like I'll be staying with the Naniwa 12K until I have alot more experience and know exactly what I need... and want!

    Thanks again!

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    Here is another thought to add to your equation although I really enjoy my Escher's, Japanese Naturals, Coticules and Charnley Forest stones. I normally finish using 10 strokes on the Naniwa Super 12K before going to .5 diamond spray on felt. You may want to experiment by adding a stroke or two to the amount of strokes you are currently using with the 12K and see what difference that makes to both the final sharpness and smoothness. You can then add another stroke or two if you have success doing this to see where the limit is for you.

    Have fun,

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    Adding to what Lynn said...
    or TAKE AWAY a stroke or two! Sometimes, especially early on in our learning curves, we tend to go overboard. I dont know if "overhone" happens on the finishers like it can on the lower grits, but I have a feeling it does!

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