Thread: Which one is better ? Kita Nashiji Suita or Nakayama Maruichi or HGAL Japanese

Kevin,
I agree with you. I opt for palm size to get a better stone (as in faster and harder) for reasonable price.

Iv been looking to get a jnat. Thanks for the tip on japan tools.

You can also try Alex Gilmore at The Japan Blade. His stones are expensive, but with him you get what you pay for.

I've also heard very good things about So Yamashita, but I'm not sure he's accepting new orders right now.

I would avoid 330mate. Although I don't have any personal experience in buying from him, you can read lots of mixed experiences that others here have had. Some will tell you that they got a great stone from him at a cheap price, others will tell you that they had nothing but trouble. But even if only 1/3 of the people who purchase from him are dissatisfied, however, that's too many for me, personally.

Hello,
I have Naniwa 5k, 8k, 10k (superstones)
Shapton 12k
Shapton glass 16k
Shapton glass 30k

On the 30k shapton some razor blades cannot be fully honed (ocasionally).
It very depends on the steel & blade hardness.

Is there any suggestions you guys have, towards which Natural Hone should be really good for final edge finishing, before stropping ?

The only two people I trust on Japanese Naturals are So and a former member here Oldschool who used to get his stones from So.

You can't go wrong with So. I need another stone sooooooooo bad.........

Lynn

Originally Posted by Lynn

The only two people I trust on Japanese Naturals are So and a former member here Oldschool who used to get his stones from So.

You can't go wrong with So. I need another stone sooooooooo bad.........

Lynn

Is there any way you can give me the link to So, I really need to get high end japanese natural hone.
Thank you in advance

I'm arguing devils advocate slightly here so I apologise in advance for that, but you should be able to get an excellent shaving edge with the stones you have at the moment.

TBH, you should be able to get a great shave right off your Naniwa 8k stone, and adding in more high grit stones to the mix wont necessarily make the shave any better.

What do you mean that some razors cannot be fully honed on the 30k? I'm just curious because I've heard good things about this stone, and its supposed to be an excellent finisher.

That said, if you definately do want to get a Japanese finisher, I've shaved with an Asagi edge which was truly excellent (one of my DD's that Dylan honed), and I have a Nakayama Maruichi which also gives truly superior edges.

I also rate Charnley Forest hones very highly.

Good luck and keep us posted!

Sorry, don't mean to hijack this discussion, but I just had to post some photos of a Nakayama usu-karasu that's coming in the mail to me. Now I have to wait for one of my razors to actually get a little dull!!

Originally Posted by Stubear

I'm arguing devils advocate slightly here so I apologise in advance for that, but you should be able to get an excellent shaving edge with the stones you have at the moment.

TBH, you should be able to get a great shave right off your Naniwa 8k stone, and adding in more high grit stones to the mix wont necessarily make the shave any better.

What do you mean that some razors cannot be fully honed on the 30k? I'm just curious because I've heard good things about this stone, and its supposed to be an excellent finisher.

That said, if you definately do want to get a Japanese finisher, I've shaved with an Asagi edge which was truly excellent (one of my DD's that Dylan honed), and I have a Nakayama Maruichi which also gives truly superior edges.

I also rate Charnley Forest hones very highly.

Good luck and keep us posted!

Hi,
30k Shapton hone, is really good but in some cases, some vintage razors cannot be honed (steel is really good). Also, I would really question if Naniwa 8k is enough for the razor to be shave ready. But again, it very depends on steel quality and blade hardness.

Originally Posted by Unitouch

Hi,
30k Shapton hone, is really good but in some cases, some vintage razors cannot be honed (steel is really good). Also, I would really question if Naniwa 8k is enough for the razor to be shave ready. But again, it very depends on steel quality and blade hardness.

Well for what its worth you need more than one Jnat to be able to get best edge from any razor. Not every stone will work equally well with every steel.
8k is good enough, as confirmed by many, to sheave very well.