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08-16-2010, 09:03 AM #1
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Thanked: 1160One and one hone only pleeeeaaase.
I know this question has been asked and asked and it seems to always lead to complex answers but I gotta try this anyway.Forgive me O lord. So....I want a hone,.....to ONLY keep an edge until such time as I need a honemaster . I don't want paddles,pastes,or strops or hard to find vintage hones etc. I don't know anything about microns or diamond dust nor at this time do I want to know. All I want for christmas besides m'two front teeth is a ONE SIDED hone that Is not too big and not too small and to use it only fo maintaining an edge. I don't wan't sandpaper and I don't want to know about bevels or anything like that. Just a one sided hone.I don't want to use hard to figure out oils or even lather,....just a little water Like I have seen Lynn use on the barber hones of old in videos and a few strokes to keep the blade going.What would be a good MODERN easy to find one sided and AFFORDABLE hone no glass or wierd materials,no goo or magic.....just a nice humble simple hone and not a cheapo thing from a quarry from nowhere or made from a hodgepodge of strange ingredients baked in someones oven that's gonna be bad to my nice little ol blade? I just know I'm asking for it but I must try,....I must try. This is gonna hurt I just know it..... I want my MOMMY!!! Lynn, if you're out there maybe you could help on this as well???
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08-16-2010, 09:05 AM #2
Naniwa 12k. Finished, next?
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08-16-2010, 09:12 AM #3
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Thanked: 1160I shall look it up. thank you,it didn't hurt either
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08-16-2010, 09:26 AM #4
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Thanked: 12Is there a specific reason that you desire a modern hone?
"the barber hones of old" that you saw Lynn using are readily available on eBay for about $20, and also often turn up in the classifieds here.
cheers,
ed
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08-16-2010, 09:31 AM #5
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Thanked: 1160Honestly,I have nothing against the old stones.I just don't know enough about what to look for and I've been confused when reading about them on the forums because it seems you have to watch out for knock offs and such. I'm as green as can be on this honing thing.Which brings me too yet another question.On these Naniwa stones. Do you have to relap them after every use ? I read that in the SRD description. Or was that just how they tested for their performance ? also,what is swarf ? I saw that term used in a review.
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08-16-2010, 10:17 AM #6
+1 on the Naniwa 12k, its a great stone.
You'll have to lap the stone when you first get it, but not much after that. You'll only be using it for the odd touch up so it'll go ages between lappings.
I lap to clean off the swarf (metal particles removed by the hone) or once the hone glazes, which it can do after a lot of use. You can clean most of the swarf off by rubbing it with your hand under running water though, so you only need to lap after a while.
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08-16-2010, 10:22 AM #7
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Thanked: 1160Thanks again Stubear.Once again you have come through And so have all the rest of you guys. I love this place.Except ya'll make me wanna spend money after reading all the forums around here haha.
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08-16-2010, 10:24 AM #8
I'm gona open up the largest can of worms that exists in the world of razor maintenance and suggest...that's it, the coticule. All hell has broken loose! Haha
Seriously though, the Naniwa 12K is said to be excellent, although I don't own one myself, I do have a 3k and 8k Naniwa and can imagine how great the 12k is.
The thing is, as far as I know and can also imagine, it is good only for touch ups and possibly making shave ready a factory edge (don't hold me to the latter, I know I can do it with an Escher, so I'm assuming.....).
If you require versatiliy then its only complimentary to say a 3k/8k combo, but as a starter hone for touch ups it is probably excellent, provided that you have in place either sand paper or a DMT to lap it with. These need regular lapping.
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08-16-2010, 10:33 AM #9
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Thanked: 1160Okay,now you're confusing me. After Stubear just informed me that I won't need to regularly lap a 12k are you saying I will . Arggghhh blood pressure going up . I'm only using this for touch up and touch up only nada zippo else ????
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08-16-2010, 10:42 AM #10
Ugh. The biggest problem with this place as a source of information for newbies is CONFUSING THE ISSUE.
Scipio, you clearly did not read the OP. He said TOUCH UPS ONLY. None of the stones you mentioned are right--the coticule can be used as a touch up hone, but at a lot of time/experimenting/experience cost.
Naniwa 12K (Or Shapton 12K-16K, it probably doesn't matter much), you're done. After initial lapping, when used for touchups, lots of lapping should not be an issue.
Nightblade, I recommend you stop reading this thread. There are about a hundred other issues about to flood you with noise.
The signal is: buy a synthetic, high grit hone and don't let anyone shake you in your resolve.
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