Well, who knows....maybe the C-Nat I have found here in Hong Kong is just the high-end quality version of the PHIG....or maybe something else.

Of what you guys are writing, some of you have the best quality C12K's that end up being great cutters with slurry and awesome polishers, similar to what these hones are giving me. Other C12K's seem to be very good, but very slow cutters, even with slurry.

The ones I have here really does seem to compare to Eschers, or even better as an all-round stone that cuts and polishes like the best ones out there....or maybe I'm just crazy thinking that a stone bought for 10% of the price of an Escher can out-perform, or at least equal it!

I don't have an Escher....yet....HAD...but this hone certainly seems to go well beyond the Coticule, IMO.