Thread: Have you guys heard about the godly BBW?

so I was very unfortunate and put a ding on my only puma razor and 24/7 workhorse... I know, I love that puma so much that I only use it completely ignoring my other razors. Anyway so I dinged it and the ding is so small I figured o well... I'll just remove it with a combo coti I have for kicks and two days later working the BBW side the ding is almost gone. So I decided to see what the shave off the BBW was like and jeez... I have to say this even though I don't want to, but the edge is nicer than the coticule side... Anyone seen this or experienced this before?
The next set of questions is anyone have any hard proof that the BBW side is inferior in grit size to the coticule side? and why is it purple? could it be that the color of the stone is irrelevant and each slab has to be treated independently? kinda like the layers of the coticules where some have better characteristics for razors than others? This is nuts... I thought I had my HAD under control but the beast is fighting pretty hard right now.

Did you raise a slurry on the BBW? Was it a thin or thick slurry? Did you try it with just water?

Would love to check, but need to know what you did in more detail please

I started off with a slurry and did the dilucote method then when all the slurry was gone I just got lazy and continued on until I noticed the edge was really really bright. Also I just finished messing around with it even more and I must say that the coti side feels more aggressive, and some swarf came out when I messed with the coti. Went back to the BBW side and it felt rougher than before after a couple of strokes using the circle strokes toe x and heel x patterns after a while it felt pretty smooth again and couldn't feel any scratches happening at all again. It was super sharp again, HHT test at this sharpness is a beauty the hairs just seem to get sliced by air or something.

I'm still itching to get a good sized combi stone, I like having multiple avenues of aproach for honing. My current BBW has a grey inclusion in the middle of it so I worry about it's ability to hone properly. One day I sould take a polished edge across it and see what it's doing to the edge.

I sold a member here a BBW and he love's it, He tells me he shaves off it, and it's every bit as good as Coti...BBW's are normally in 4k range according to Ardennes, Coti's are 8-10k...I'm sure the BBW's are a bit higher than that...But why not ask the Coti Guru, Bart..You mentioned Dilucot, So you must be a disciple of Coticule.be....?

I used to use a BBW during my normal honing. A the time I was going from a King 1k to the BBW with slurry (which I gradually diluted) to the coticule with just water. But it wasn't until I got and was testing out a Dragon's Tongue that I actually shaved off the BBW. I did the DT and BBW both straight off the 1k (one razor per hone, identical Sheffield quarter hollows) - for each hone I started with a slurry and diluted as I went along. I really enjoyed the shaves off both. No pulling and a very smooth shave. I did a writeup that's buried somewhere on SRP...

Anyway, I think the shave off my BBW is probably something like the shave off a synthetic 6k to 8k, but a bit smoother.

I've never shaved off of an edge finished on a bbw but I used to use one with slurry before the yellow coticule. Still do sometimes while other times, when using a coticule, I might do light to medium slurry on the yellow diluting to clear water as I go.

IIRC Bart wrote that he found that going to the yellow after sharpening on the bbw sometimes made the edge feel like it was falling off in sharpness a bit. IIRC he said that the yellow was adding smoothness that made the difference in feeling. Going back to the bbw would add sharpness. Something like that. May be in the SRP Wiki where he wrote about coticule honing.

Originally Posted by Memorael

so I was very unfortunate and put a ding on my only puma razor and 24/7 workhorse... I know, I love that puma so much that I only use it completely ignoring my other razors. Anyway so I dinged it and the ding is so small I figured o well... I'll just remove it with a combo coti I have for kicks and two days later working the BBW side the ding is almost gone. So I decided to see what the shave off the BBW was like and jeez... I have to say this even though I don't want to, but the edge is nicer than the coticule side... Anyone seen this or experienced this before?
The next set of questions is anyone have any hard proof that the BBW side is inferior in grit size to the coticule side? and why is it purple? could it be that the color of the stone is irrelevant and each slab has to be treated independently? kinda like the layers of the coticules where some have better characteristics for razors than others? This is nuts... I thought I had my HAD under control but the beast is fighting pretty hard right now.

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After watching Bart's short video about honing with a CrOx slurry on a BBW, I tried it using .3 micron Super CeOx and got good results. I diluted until I was down to clear water. Shaved quite well. As I recall, it was a 6/8 Geneva blade..........

I only tried it one time so this is not an extensive test result. We might call it a one-hit wonder.........

Well I tried this again and the results are the same, the progression if anyone is interested in trying it is slurry on BBW until only water is left. Then Coti side until the sound it makes stops being as scratchy as it is initially then flip over and finish on BBW by this time it should feel like glass with little or no scratchy noise. Have fun guys, I have a feeling BBW are going to become really popular.

I tought I was crazy, but I get the same impression when I hone with a BBW, compared to a yellow coti. The BBW seems to hone smoother, and cut less than the coti, and when you go back to the BBW, after the coti, then you can actually feel a bit of roughness for the first few strokes before is smooths out on the BBW...

I have not shaved off the BBW only, but it certainly feels like it could give a great shave, I'll have to try it out!