Thread: Gokumyo #10 000

This is OT for this thread, but could you post more about the Chosera 3k and 5k? Since I got the 1k, I'm finding myself wanting one or both.

Originally Posted by holli4pirating

This is OT for this thread, but could you post more about the Chosera 3k and 5k? Since I got the 1k, I'm finding myself wanting one or both.

yes please Seth, fan the flames of desire lest they lick the HAD riddled flesh from our bones.

Originally Posted by holli4pirating

This is OT for this thread, but could you post more about the Chosera 3k and 5k? Since I got the 1k, I'm finding myself wanting one or both.

The #3000 and the #5000 are a lot less porous than the #1000 and #2000. The #1000 seems to suck water like mad. I was constantly having to re wet the surface, even after soaking it for 20 minutes. The #3000 and #5000 feel nearly exactly the same with regard to feedback and weight. The #1000 is nice but the feel of those other two are really buttery smooth and the water doesn't soak into them like it does with the 1K.

The steel removal on the #1000 was visible but there was little or no swarf left on the hone. Maybe it was sucked into the hone? On the #3000 and #5000 the swarf is readily visible but even when honing a kitchen knife and the water is all black, the hone never feels loaded and keeps on cutting. A quick dip under a running faucet and a palm polish will remove all of the dark swarf and leave a nice clean surface.

The edges off of these are a lot more crisp than off of a Coticule or BBW. Under 30x magnification the scratch pattern is very consistant. I would say the edges are even better than those I used to get off of lapping film.

All in all they are well worth the money. The Gokumyo #10000 too I would say but it is still too new for my to say for sure. I look forward to the razors that come off of it.

I'd also like to mention that the stamps on the sides of the Naniwa Choseras state that the hones should not be left soaking in water for long periods of time (i.e. more than 1 hr.) because the hone could deform.

The Gokumyo, on the other hand states that no mater how long you soak it, it will never deform. This is one you can leave in a honing pond even in between honing sessions.

I think I have found a synthetic equivalent to my J-Nat finishing hone in this Gokumyo. I'll have to make a visit to Morihei to see if something he has will up this one.

Arrggghhh! Thanks a heap you guys! HAD is back!

Originally Posted by ZethLent

I think I have found a synthetic equivalent to my J-Nat finishing hone in this Gokumyo. I'll have to make a visit to Morihei to see if something he has will up this one.

would you clarify above statement?
do you mean this synthetic stone(Gokumyo 10000) is equivalent to your natural Japanese 30000+ finishing hone?

Originally Posted by hi_bud_gl

would you clarify above statement?
do you mean this synthetic stone(Gokumyo 10000) is equivalent to your natural Japanese 30000+ finishing hone?

That "30000" natural finisher is a nonsense number, based only on what people feel on their face. It has no relationship whatsoever to real size of the particles.

Kyoto awaseto have particles that range in size from 1-3 microns...so if you want to put a grit number on your Japanese finishing hone, call it an 8k.

If, on the other hand, you are only judging a hone by the feeling, then just call it a finisher--that's what the guys who've been dealing with hones for the last couple of centuries have done.

So if this hone is a good finisher, it's a good finisher, regardless of the (mostly meaningless) particle size.

Originally Posted by hi_bud_gl

would you clarify above statement?
do you mean this synthetic stone(Gokumyo 10000) is equivalent to your natural Japanese 30000+ finishing hone?

Yes.

That is how it has been feeling for quite a number of shaves now.

Originally Posted by ZethLent

Yes.

That is how it has been feeling for quite a number of shaves now.

this one should be twice as good as then?

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