Well gonna try my hand at honing. I went today and bought some hones a Norton 4000/8000 a Norton lapping stone and a C12k from Guanngxi. I probably should return the lapping stone and get a 1200 grit stone instead. I could lap with wet sand paper. Do you think the lapping stone is helpful enough for the 27 bucks? I did not think of the 1200 grit till just after I left the store. So another 140 bucks to my latest hobby. Besides the soap i bought today but that is in the soap forum.