Thread: Made the plunge for a new hone

Thanks to some excellent advice from you gentlemen...I purchased the Naniwa 12k superstone. I plan on replacing my C12. The C12 worked just fine, but it was a very slowwwwwwwwww cutting stone. I continually adding/making new slurry.

Is the Naniwa a faster cutter? I'll read the directions when it gets here, but I figured I'd ask a few questions about its use.

1. Does this stone work with a slurry? The C12 was messy.

2. I'm assuming it will cut faster than my C12. Is this true?

3. I purchased this hone because I was told it plays well with my norton hones. How does it feel in comparison?

4. I've been using the pyramid technique. After I finished with the 8k...I went to the C12 to finish. should there be any rotating between the 8k and the 12k?

Any other tidbits or information you have would be greatly appreciated as always!

Thanks!

Though I don't own either of these, I can safely say that every stone is faster than the C12.

And while the C12 probably wants slurry, the Naniwa shouldn't. Simply let some water soak in and use it.

Originally Posted by jcsixx

Thanks to some excellent advice from you gentlemen...I purchased the Naniwa 12k superstone. I plan on replacing my C12. The C12 worked just fine, but it was a very slowwwwwwwwww cutting stone. I continually adding/making new slurry.

Replacing???

Is the Naniwa a faster cutter? I'll read the directions when it gets here, but I figured I'd ask a few questions about its use.

Yes the Naniwa is faster and more consistent

1. Does this stone work with a slurry? The C12 was messy.

Yes it can, or no it doesn't need any, either way, same as the PHIG

2. I'm assuming it will cut faster than my C12. Is this true?

Yes

3. I purchased this hone because I was told it plays well with my norton hones. How does it feel in comparison?

There is no Norton 12k, but the two 8k's are similar but the Naniwa, most people think feels "softer" on the feedback

4. I've been using the pyramid technique. After I finished with the 8k...I went to the C12 to finish. should there be any rotating between the 8k and the 12k?

Some do that, you need to play with the stone to decide what works best for you

Any other tidbits or information you have would be greatly appreciated as always!

Thanks!

Can you shave comfortably from the Norton 8k???? if the answer is no, then put both Finishers away until you can, then pull them back out...
Which is why I also question the statement of making new slurry on the PHIG,,, it sounds as though you are trying to use a finish stone for something that it is not designed to do...

I would recommend only using 10 no pressure X strokes following the 8K and slurry is not necessary. Then you can strop and test shave to see where you are at. If you use diamond spray/paste or Chromium Oxide following the 12K, I would also recommend no more than 10 no pressure X strokes, then strop and test shave.

Have fun,

Lynn

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Can you shave comfortably from the Norton 8k???? if the answer is no, then put both Finishers away until you can, then pull them back out...
Which is why I also question the statement of making new slurry on the PHIG,,, it sounds as though you are trying to use a finish stone for something that it is not designed to do...

I only use the slurry on the C12. I plan on using the Naniwa 12k instead of the C12 as my finisher.. I know that norton doesn't make a 12k. You had mentioned that the Naniwa 12k would work well with the nortons in a different thread. I can shave off the 8k after using pasted strop. I don't think I've tried just right off of the 8k stone. I only use the chinese 12k as a finishing stone. I make sure that the blade can pop hair through each of the progressions.

The main problem I was having with the c12...It was taking a lot of strokes and I had to keep making/adding more slurry. It took many strokes, made a big mess, and had to keep making slurry.

I was using...norton 1k, norton 4/8k, chinese 12k. The naniwa replacing the chinese 12k.

What Lynn described is exactly how I use my Naniwa 12k after the Norton 8k.
You don't need a lot of laps, and most importantly don't use any pressure.

The pasted strop will be your problem. Don't use it, and shave test the razor. Only use your finishers if you get a good and comfortable shave off the 8k. If you don't, than the finishers won't be of any use. Its not the fault of the C12k-s slowness that you don't get a good edge, the Naniwa 12k won't help too if your edge is not 8k ready.

I own the Naniwa and the C12. I like both, but lately I've been having a great time with the C12.

I don't use slurry on either, just water and light strokes, letting the water evaporate just a bit.

I'm also not looking to make honing a quick and dirty job. I love the process, and the time it takes to dial in an edge that cuts facial hair like a hot knife in butter. The C12 is perfect for this. Get nice and comfortable, and then play.

I also subscribe to the opinion that if you polish your edge well on the 8K, then it's going to be very comfortable. If it's not....then some more patient strokes are needed before you bring out a higher grit finisher.

Just my experience and two cents.

Keep practicing...If you build it they will come (I have no idea how that applies here, but I thought it would sound profound)