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07-10-2013, 07:25 PM
Gudis

Haha, then I shouldnt have one :D

Im not new to JNATs in some way, and I also know that there is no mine called "meara", but that is the name I bought it under. Maybe I should try to use it on my razors and see if it works there.

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Originally Posted by zib

Maybe it's a secret known only to "Top Men", "Top Men" :thinking:
07-11-2013, 01:26 AM
onimaru55

Maybe it's a nickname. I know a guy who gives names to his 'pet' rocks. ;)
08-04-2013, 01:26 PM
Bavaria

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Originally Posted by maxim207

2 very Old Ozukus one prepolisher other is final polisher
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Z...0/IMGP7940.JPG

Hi Maxim,

these are very interesting stones.
Could you please tell a bit more about them?
How old? From which mine? What is written on the lables?
I ask because they don't show the typical ozuku stamp:

http://666kb.com/i/cgdiabe4i9aonojgz.jpg
08-16-2013, 12:40 AM
eod7

http://i.imgur.com/2tDjw5b.jpg
08-16-2013, 05:21 AM
Bavaria

Hello Eod7,

I have a stone with the same stamp (see picture).

I asked Mr. Teshiba-san what is written on it, and got following answer:

"It is written 三河本名倉砥 in stone of the image.
三河 is a place name.
本名倉砥 is a real Nagura grindstone.

Mountain is different from the Mikawa Naguras."

http://666kb.com/i/cgpbwjx1husd8de5c.jpg
08-16-2013, 06:30 AM
mrsell63

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My latest Jnat acquisition is this "Asagi" as it was described in the ad. Not sure of the correct description. However it is a good finisher. For an unspecified period of time, this stone was the go-to finish stone of Sham in KC Missouri. He decided to move to a different finisher and I took ownership of the stone.

Sorry about the terrible photos but I got chased out of photography school more times than FDR got re-elected.
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08-16-2013, 02:58 PM
jpcwon

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Here are some pics of my new Nakayama Tomae Asagi from Alex Gilmore (The Japan Blade). The dimensions are 133x80x25mm and it appears to be a very nice stone; perfect size for straight razor honing! The colors on this stone are beautiful as well...The HGAL rating for this stone is 5/5+/5+/5+, so it should work perfectly as a finishing/polishing stone.

I am going to begin using the stone with DMT slurry to kind of get a feel for what the stone can do on it's own. Alex was also nice enough to include 2 Tomo's with the stone, so I will mess around with those as well. Then, once I start to learn the stone, I will try doing a full nagura progression on it....I am very excited to own this stone as Alex spoke highly of it...

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08-19-2013, 06:25 PM
StraightRazorDave

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This is a Nakayama Asagi I picked up from Alex not too long ago. It's a nice hard stone and has a pleasing green colour to it. Also, it has a kawa/skin on all the sides and the back! Doesn't affect the performance, but it's just a cool quality about it. The size is rougly 7" x 2 1/4", so a nice size to hold in your hand. It came with a nice little tomo nagura as well (not pictured). Very nice to use, I find I get the best feel for the stone when I use just the slightest bit of slurry, barely visible, and hone on that for a bit. It really seems to suck the blade down to the stone, very nice to use.

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08-19-2013, 07:28 PM
Fikira

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Originally Posted by Bavaria

Hello Eod7,

I have a stone with the same stamp (see picture).

I asked Mr. Teshiba-san what is written on it, and got following answer:

"It is written 三河本名倉砥 in stone of the image.
三河 is a place name.
本名倉砥 is a real Nagura grindstone.

Mountain is different from the Mikawa Naguras."

http://666kb.com/i/cgpbwjx1husd8de5c.jpg

Isn't it possible that 三河 means Mikawa or Sanshu?

kindest regards,
08-19-2013, 07:38 PM
mainaman

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Originally Posted by StraightRazorDave

This is a Nakayama Asagi I picked up from Alex not too long ago. It's a nice hard stone and has a pleasing green colour to it. Also, it has a kawa/skin on all the sides and the back! Doesn't affect the performance, but it's just a cool quality about it. The size is rougly 7" x 2 1/4", so a nice size to hold in your hand. It came with a nice little tomo nagura as well (not pictured). Very nice to use, I find I get the best feel for the stone when I use just the slightest bit of slurry, barely visible, and hone on that for a bit. It really seems to suck the blade down to the stone, very nice to use.

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Looks like kiita may be the lightning is off and makes the hue yellowish?
Or it is asagi when whet?
08-19-2013, 07:47 PM
StraightRazorDave

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Originally Posted by mainaman

Looks like kiita may be the lightning is off and makes the hue yellowish?

The pics aren't the best, I'm sorry. With the camera I have it's hard for me to capture to accurate colour. To me is a really light green, so I suppose it does have a bit of a yellow-ish hue to it. It may be a kiita, I honestly don't know. :shrug: Here's a pic of it wet, the colour on my monitor seems to be fairly accurate. There's definitely no blue colour in it, just green with the brownish tinge at the bottom.

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08-19-2013, 08:02 PM
mainaman

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Originally Posted by StraightRazorDave

The pics aren't the best, I'm sorry. With the camera I have it's hard for me to capture to accurate colour. To me is a really light green, so I suppose it does have a bit of a yellow-ish hue to it. It may be a kiita, I honestly don't know. :shrug: Here's a pic of it wet, the colour on my monitor seems to be fairly accurate. There's definitely no blue colour in it, just green with the brownish tinge at the bottom.

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Some asagis are rather green, what matters the most is if the stone does the job for you.
08-19-2013, 08:03 PM
StraightRazorDave

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Originally Posted by mainaman

Some asagis are rather green, what matters the most is if the stone does the job for you.

Agreed. I personally couldn't care less what it's called. It's a beauty and gets the job done!
08-19-2013, 08:07 PM
jpcwon

Does look a bit Kiita'ish to me as well, which is not a bad thing BTW!!

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Originally Posted by StraightRazorDave

Agreed. I personally couldn't care less what it's called. It's a beauty and gets the job done!

Absolutely!!
08-19-2013, 08:22 PM
StraightRazorDave

@jpcwon: Actually, when I saw your stone it kind of reminded me of mine, especially with the brownish area at the end. Definitely a nice looking stone you have and I hope it's working out for you. Alex definitely has some nice pickings.
08-19-2013, 08:55 PM
Lemur

+1 on Mainaman, ere you sure about the name?
Looks like a nice rock anyway!
08-19-2013, 09:40 PM
jpcwon

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Originally Posted by StraightRazorDave

@jpcwon: Actually, when I saw your stone it kind of reminded me of mine, especially with the brownish area at the end. Definitely a nice looking stone you have and I hope it's working out for you. Alex definitely has some nice pickings.

Thanks! I am LOVING my stone...much faster & finer than the other JNATs I have...I find that I hardly even need to use my Mikawa nagura....the Tomo does the job just fine!! I am getting great edges from mine and I hope you're doing the same!!
09-23-2013, 02:13 PM
Tierdaen

Nothing new here but a pic of my stones now that they've been cleaned up a bit:

http://i.imgur.com/Gi1Ftwv.jpg

The Wakasa is one of the more yellowish specimens I've seen pics of, and the Shobu is very pale and uniform. The background stones are a Zulu Grey and a granite plate for film (shh...)
09-23-2013, 05:19 PM
alx

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Originally Posted by Tierdaen

Nothing new here but a pic of my stones now that they've been cleaned up a bit:

The Wakasa is one of the more yellowish specimens I've seen pics of, and the Shobu is very pale and uniform. The background stones are a Zulu Grey and a granite plate for film (shh...)

Tierdaen

Really nice looking stones, very even in consistancy.
Alx
09-23-2013, 05:36 PM
Tierdaen

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Originally Posted by alx

Tierdaen

Really nice looking stones, very even in consistancy.
Alx

Thanks! When I look at stones, generally the ones that visually appeal to me most are those with some patterning or effect in them, such as this Shobu from Maksim's site:
6 Shuobudani type 100 - Japanese Natural Stones
(the patterning in that one makes me think of Jupiter), but the stones I purchase end up being very plain.
10-01-2013, 11:22 AM
Brighty83

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Hey Guys,

Since its been a while I thought I might post a few of my new stones :)

Starting off with this sucker :)

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10-01-2013, 12:11 PM
Lemur

That was a beauty, you know what it is?
10-01-2013, 12:23 PM
Brighty83

Thanks Lemur!

I believe its a Okunomon, but a very nice stone to hone on! Feels aground the 15k range and a fast cutter :)
10-02-2013, 02:06 AM
onimaru55

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Originally Posted by Brighty83

Thanks Lemur!

I believe its a Okunomon, but a very nice stone to hone on! Feels aground the 15k range and a fast cutter :)

Looks like Okudo Suita but I might be wrong mon. :)
10-02-2013, 10:22 AM
Brighty83

Thanks mate, im fairly sure its Suita but as for the mine it could be anything lol

It came from a Japanese seller who stated it's a "Okunomon SUITA" and Im guessing thast the mine?? although I havnt seen Okunomon untill i found this seller.. It has no stamps or any other way of telling so It could be Okudo and i would definatly trust your opinion over some stranger. lol

Its probably more Knife friendly but its a very nice stone to use though! :)

Have you recieved any stones since i was i was on here last Oz??
10-02-2013, 03:08 PM
alx

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Originally Posted by Brighty83

Hey Guys,

Since its been a while I thought I might post a few of my new stones :)

Starting off with this sucker :)

Good to hear from you again, interesting looking stone.

Alx
10-03-2013, 01:18 AM
onimaru55

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Originally Posted by Brighty83

Thanks mate, im fairly sure its Suita but as for the mine it could be anything lol

It came from a Japanese seller who stated it's a "Okunomon SUITA" and Im guessing thast the mine?? although I havnt seen Okunomon untill i found this seller.. It has no stamps or any other way of telling so It could be Okudo and i would definatly trust your opinion over some stranger. lol

Its probably more Knife friendly but its a very nice stone to use though! :)

Have you recieved any stones since i was i was on here last Oz??

There's plenty of less well known mines. Just having a dig at ya. ;)

Yeah, stones are like puppies that follow me home . Just gotta take care of them. :)
10-03-2013, 09:36 AM
Brighty83

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Originally Posted by onimaru55

Yeah, stones are like puppies that follow me home . Just gotta take care of them. :)

Mate, If i had as many puppies as i do stones i would be arrested by the RSPCA

Speaking of stones, below is a little Nagura that i rescued a few weeks ago :)

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10-03-2013, 09:42 AM
Brighty83

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Originally Posted by alx

Good to hear from you again, interesting looking stone.

Alx

Thanks Alex, sorry i havnt been in touch for a while!!

I actually almost purchased a stone from you a few months ago! Ill have to go have another look at your site! :P
10-03-2013, 12:31 PM
onimaru55

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Originally Posted by Brighty83

Speaking of stones, below is a little Nagura that i rescued a few weeks ago :)

You polishing swords ?
10-03-2013, 12:45 PM
Brighty83

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Originally Posted by onimaru55

You polishing swords ?

Im pollishing stones :P

Its really nice to hone on, very fast cutter but i only use this on knives... I actually really would like to get a japanese sword oneday although a genuine one is soo damn expensive
10-06-2013, 07:05 AM
jollo74

Hi folks,

Here are some pictures from my Nakayama Maruka (13,5 x 8 x 2,5 cm):

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46...psbb3793fe.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46...ps39717fba.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46...ps9c9b00f0.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46...ps6f3edff4.jpg

It is a rather soft and "thirsty" stone, i.e. water is getting absorbed pretty quickly. A slurry is easily raised and boy, is this stone fast :dropjaw: !! The slurry darkens after a just a few strokes and a razor dulled on a glass is being honed back to shaving sharp extremely quickly. The stone does not leave a mirror but rather a hazy finish.

The shaves of razors coming off this hone are very comfortable :).

Cheers
Jörg
10-06-2013, 07:56 AM
Brighty83

Hi Jörg,

Nice looking stone, The "hazy" finish is is common on jnats expecially the softer stones as it's caused by the slurry itself. I have a few stones that soak the water up just as wuick and althogh the softer stones are generly more knife friendly its good this one is giving you the comfortable edge you need! :)

Just in case you didnt know, im 'failry' sure Maruka means the stone was mined at a time when Nakayama owned by the family of Kato
before it was replaced by Hatahoshi, and Hatanaka - So its a true Nakayama :)

Thanks for sharing it! :)
10-06-2013, 08:27 AM
jollo74

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Originally Posted by Brighty83

Hi Jörg,

Nice looking stone, The "hazy" finish is is common on jnats expecially the softer stones as it's caused by the slurry itself. I have a few stones that soak the water up just as wuick and althogh the softer stones are generly more knife friendly its good this one is giving you the comfortable edge you need! :)

Thanks for sharing it! :)

Thanks :D

Here's another J-Nat, a Nakayama Iromono together with some naguras:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46...psf0385491.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46...ps39bed495.jpg

This one is harder than the Maruka but not quite as hard as my small Oozuku. A very easy stone to use :D.

Cheers
Jörg
10-06-2013, 08:42 AM
Brighty83

Thats a really nice looking stone and bunch of Naguras! I like the look of the more natural un even look compared to the square look that usually donst have the skin.

Looks like you have a nice collection! Throw up your Oozuku aswell! :)
10-06-2013, 02:41 PM
jollo74

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Originally Posted by Brighty83

Thats a really nice looking stone and bunch of Naguras! I like the look of the more natural un even look compared to the square look that usually donst have the skin.

Looks like you have a nice collection! Throw up your Oozuku aswell! :)

Thanks again :D! I also like the "rough" look - btw. the stone you have shown a bit earlier is a wonderful specimen!

Here's a snapshot of the Ooszuke (unfortunately I don't have any better pictures at hand right now):

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46...ps8e6fd99b.jpg

Cheers
Jörg
10-12-2013, 08:32 PM
Fikira

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Originally Posted by mainaman

I use Jnat slurry to polish razors works great for even finish and removing scratches

May I ask how you use the slurry, is it a thick slurry on a cloth or something? Have you experimented with slurries of "lower" grit
stones when removing scratches?

Thanks!
10-12-2013, 08:58 PM
mainaman

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Originally Posted by Fikira

May I ask how you use the slurry, is it a thick slurry on a cloth or something? Have you experimented with slurries of "lower" grit
stones when removing scratches?

Thanks!

medium slurry works usually.
If you go thicker consistency you just need to hone with it longer to make sure complete breakdown of the particles.
10-12-2013, 09:21 PM
Lemur

Fikira, If you want to experiment with powdered jnats for polishing, check out "nugui" powders.
They are mainly for swords but fun to polish anything with.
It's made up from jnat powders, iron oxides, chromium oxide, camellia oil, burnt bone (human teeth in one recipe) and whatever you feel like putting in as your secret ingredient.
10-13-2013, 08:47 AM
Fikira

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Originally Posted by mainaman

medium slurry works usually.
If you go thicker consistency you just need to hone with it longer to make sure complete breakdown of the particles.

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Originally Posted by Lemur

Fikira, If you want to experiment with powdered jnats for polishing, check out "nugui" powders.
They are mainly for swords but fun to polish anything with.
It's made up from jnat powders, iron oxides, chromium oxide, camellia oil, burnt bone (human teeth in one recipe) and whatever you feel like putting in as your secret ingredient.

That looks very interesting! I'm using sanding paper and micromesh, and of course it's much work to remove the previous scratches!
Now, because you'll get a nice hazy finish when honing on Jnat I wondered if you could get such a result when we're restoring!

Is it possible to remove deep scratches with the powders or slurries? Does it saves time? Are the "wa" powders similar?
And are there series of progressions in powders?

Thanks!

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