Thread: Question about coticules

Originally Posted by gssixgun

What mainaman /stefan just said +1

Somehow that myth just keeps going and going and going If you really don't believe us, just draw a line down the center of a 3 in wide hone end to end and only hone on half of it A rolling X or a 45 degree heel forward X works on any size hone...

TRUTH!

I have several coticules, the one I use most is 2.5"X9" a natural combo, vintage, BBW side is never used.
Funny, I've honed warped razors, smiling razors, etc on normal size "bench" hones and never had a problem....hmm.

Originally Posted by Danricgro

I got into an argument about the narrow stone thing on another forum. Finally I just gave up. Just can't convince some people.

Some people think that every coticule known to man-kind is the same as each other when it comes to quality also, which is...not true...

Originally Posted by Danricgro

I got into an argument about the narrow stone thing on another forum. Finally I just gave up. Just can't convince some people.

part of the formula for honing success is confidence and familiarity with what one is doing. For some people, the narrow hone factors favorably in those regards

I think where the problem comes in and why I correct it every single time is that "Narrow Minded" honers tend to word it so that it makes Narrow Hones sound "easier" to use on problem blades.. Where "Wide Minded" people tend to say "It does't matter what size the hone is" it really only comes down to the hands pushing the razor on the hone.

To make it as clear as possible, IME the size of the hone makes no difference only the size of the honer's experience

Now here is a thought
Since a smaller hone requires more laps to do the same work as a larger hone, then you are going to have to do more flips, since flips are the biggest source of potential problems for a new honer.. Then which size stone is actually eaiser??????

See there are discussions within discussions riddles within the questions, a true enigma

Originally Posted by tlittle

I'll have to change my wording I suppose...It's easier for me to hone a warped blade on a narrower hone. I had one razor with a heel that just wouldn't touch the hone unless I got an angle on the rolling x-stroke that made me worry about the pressure on the edge in relation to the edge of the hone. I'm sure once I gain more experience then I'd be able to work around it on a larger hone as well. Consider my endorsement merely a subjective opinion

However, I will agree with some others and say that for natural stones especially, narrower is definitely cheaper

Tlittle, I have noticed that a 2" hone is slightly easier to hone a slightly warped blade on (depending on the type of warp) for the reasons you described, but I've only seen the issue on a full hollow blade. However, the problem is easily remedied by being conscious of the issue, and careful. But I will go against all these veterans and say, yes, I know what you're talking about-I don't necessarily think theres very much difference at all, but for some warps, there is a slight difference--to ME

One of the biggest problems guys have is that they don't keep the razor flat on a stone. Smaller stones and particularly thinner stones can add to the difficulty for new guys until they get both the pressure and the flatness of the strokes worked out.

I have Coticules of all sizes and all of them CAN do the job. Smaller stones or bouts are definitely cheaper and as pointed out, generally just take more strokes and everyone has to figure that part out individually. I can consistently get quicker results from any of my larger stones with less dialing in and for one stone honing, the larger stone is much easier for me.

As with most of these type discussions, both cheap and individual preferences come into play. To me, the key is just finding the stones that work the best and the most consistent for you. And, there are a lot of stones out there that work.

Have fun.

You are very Zen in your posts lately, Lynn. Definitely seem "at one with the universe" having attained enlightenment through honing

I am a honing noob, but let me stir the pot a little.

People make a big deal out of lapping their hones. I see people talking about lapping after every blade.

I saw someone recently that has a LOT of experience hone a razor for me on hones that were very swaybacked. So my point is that experience can compensate for a lot of shortcomings in the hones.

I learned a lot watching him work.

Originally Posted by woodsmandave

You are very Zen in your posts lately, Lynn. Definitely seem "at one with the universe" having attained enlightenment through honing

Not a hard thing when you sit and hone 4-6 hours almost every day of your life.

It's a bootiful ting!!

Have fun.

Originally Posted by Lynn

Not a hard thing when you sit and hone 4-6 hours almost every day of your life.

It's a bootiful ting!!

Have fun.

lol best...thing



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