Thread: Me first stone! Naniwa, Coti?

Hello community I would like to get some final input regarding 2 different stone types. Btw I've already read all the wiki, did lots of research and narrowed down my search for the right stone(s).

I will be doing mostly blade refreshing (when my .5diamond and. 5crOx no longer do the job) and I've come down to either the Naniwa super stone (most likely the 3 stone set) Or, a coticle stone.

I know naniwas are more consistent but coti's are capable of doing one stone hone jobs using slurry and dilution. Im also liking that coticle stones give a very smooth edge if done correctly, being that I have very sensitive skin and acne.

Any input would be great
-Rob

if you have sensative skin maybe coticule is better for you, they are renowed for skin freindly edges..having said that i shaved of 12k naniwa and they leave a similar edge if done correctly. maybe send a razor to be honed by some one with a coticule and one with a full set of naniwas...test them both ad se what your face likes.... then make your decision... coticules do take a little practice ...synthetics would be god choice for beginner but still take practice good honing stroke etc.. unicot method with a coticule is realy much more simple for a beginner .. i started out with norton 4k/8k then a coticule . You could buy both these then you have the best of both..

gary

For a beginner I would go with the Naniwa's. Easier to use and your Naniwa's will be the same as everybody else's so it is alot easier for others on the forum to help out when you are having problems. Coticules are all different so it is a bit tougher to get help.

I own eight coticules and love em all, but somedays they frustrate the crap out of me.

Originally Posted by Danricgro

For a beginner I would go with the Naniwa's. Easier to use and your Naniwa's will be the same as everybody else's so it is alot easier for others on the forum to help out when you are having problems. Coticules are all different so it is a bit tougher to get help.

I own eight coticules and love em all, but somedays they frustrate the crap out of me.

thanks for the response guys, would the three set from SRD be enough or do I need any more stones?

How long have you been straight razor shaving?

Originally Posted by eastoahu

thanks for the response guys, would the three set from SRD be enough or do I need any more stones?

I'd advise going with a synthetic set first to learn honing. Get a coticule to work with after you've mastered the basics and are getting good shave ready edges with the synthetics.

I personally like the norton 4/8 better than naniwa or shapton but that is just me. I think the 3 set would be good enough if you know how to use them. You could learn on them if you don't know yet. Just get some inexpensive used razors to practice on before you take your new razors to them.

You'll need a lapping plate to keep them flat and the Dia-Sharp DMT D8C continuous diamond plate is pretty much the default plate that the majority of members here use. Invest in one of those when you buy whichever stones you finally choose.

Everyones experience is different. I had the King 1k, Norton 4/8k and could not get an edge off them to save my life.

Struggled for weeks and weeks and thought I was just retarded for not being able to get the hang of it. Was given a Coticule to try and first shot managed to get a wonderful edge. Super Smooth and comfortable shaves and i was able to repeat the results with every razor I took to it.

Are there any members close by to you that may have a variety of stones? Or a local meetup where there will be a group of people that can let you play with their rocks for a day? I found that a huge help as well.

Originally Posted by dyimages

Everyones experience is different. I had the King 1k, Norton 4/8k and could not get an edge off them to save my life.

Struggled for weeks and weeks and thought I was just retarded for not being able to get the hang of it. Was given a Coticule to try and first shot managed to get a wonderful edge. Super Smooth and comfortable shaves and i was able to repeat the results with every razor I took to it.

Are there any members close by to you that may have a variety of stones? Or a local meetup where there will be a group of people that can let you play with their rocks for a day? I found that a huge help as well.

I really like the whole idea and techniques behind coticules. Im so stuck on what to buy lol >.< even if I just bought both im gonna wanna stick to one or the other to learn that particular stone..

And as far as members close by, I live in the middle of the pacific ocean (Hawaii) and doubt there are any forum members out. Here... but I could be wrong!

Here is some advice

Read this http://straightrazorpalace.com/honin...on-2012-a.html

Understand that the 3/8 Naniwa will do the same thing as a 4/8 Norton or a 4/8 Shapton

Understand that the any single shavable stone can be used with slurry to be a "One Stone Hone" not just a Coticule

Oh yeah wait we did that too, there are way more vids with way more stones now...

http://straightrazorpalace.com/advan...lynn-glen.html


From watching way to many newbs start honing and trying to teach them in person I would reccomend a nice wide 3x8 from what I have seen it is way easier to figure out at first...

see here


http://straightrazorpalace.com/hones...al-pics-3.html


Edit: Whoops just read ya bought both have fun hehehe

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Here is some advice

Read this http://straightrazorpalace.com/honin...on-2012-a.html

Understand that the 3/8 Naniwa will do the same thing as a 4/8 Norton or a 4/8 Shapton

Understand that the any single shavable stone can be used with slurry to be a "One Stone Hone" not just a Coticule

Oh yeah wait we did that too, there are way more vids with way more stones now...

http://straightrazorpalace.com/advan...lynn-glen.html


From watching way to many newbs start honing and trying to teach them in person I would reccomend a nice wide 3x8 from what I have seen it is way easier to figure out at first...

see here


http://straightrazorpalace.com/hones...al-pics-3.html


Edit: Whoops just read ya bought both have fun hehehe

Oops sorry if that confused you, but I have not purchased them yet. I was just saying even if I did I would have to stick to one or the other to fully learn that particular stone. No use jumping around to different stones while im still learning.

So gssix would you reccomend the 3 piece naniwa set over a. Coti?? And is 5,8,and 12k okay or do I need a 1k and say a 3k maybe to fill in the gaps???