Thread: Cutler's Greenstone, is a Legend ?

Originally Posted by Bushdoctor

There's someone that have see or own one Cutler's Greenstone ? There are some pics to compare ?
All the notice that I know about this stone is which is green forest in color with blue dots sparkle, and that comes from Snowdonia 's area ,but I've never seen one picture,
Thanks

I know nothing about the stone, but if you go to this link and scroll down you will find a picture, of course provided the author has correctly identified it. http://www.olivia-seife.de/steinvergleich.htm

Regards,

Howard

Thank you Howard, I'm not sure if this the really Cutler's Green, looks like a kind of Grecian Hone to me, anyway thank you to have suggest me this site, I have watched in the past and I remember there was something wrong, now I don't remember what.

All the best

Bushdoctor - if what you remember is in regard to the stone, it could be the grit rating: 6 - 8k would appear to be very low for a stone that has mythic status! Olivia may have been joking though - the listing under the CG is for a Charnley Forest and starts of "...This time for real..." which makes me think the Cutlers Green posting was not 'for real.'

If it is with regard to the site itself, it could be the mysterious absence/silence of the seller herself - I tried corresponding (a fairly long time ago, now) with a view to buy a Frankonian, but received no reply. This co-incided with her abrupt absence from the shaving forum she was once a frequent contributor to, and many of the members there noted that she could not be contacted - after a year or so none of them were any the wiser.

Regards,
Neil

Iirc Olivia initially thought her green speckled stone was a CF and added it to the SRP hone database as such. Later she realized it couldn't be a CF and called it a CG. I'm sure her choice was only based on the same info we have too (forest green with blue speckles). Her list is a few years old.

Should be interesting to see what adrspach can dig up.

Sadly, 'forest green with sparse blue speckles' means different things to different people! I suppose it depends on what sort of forest you are familiar with, and how you visualise blue. Blue, in itself, is a fairly speculative colour when applied to hones. I used to work with all sorts of natural stone and some of the 'blue' varieties were anything but blue! Most were greyish - to my eye, anyway.

There seem to be 2 or 3 separate mentions of CGs, dated 1877,1867 and 1852, by authors including Richard Knight, Penning and Holzapfel. The references however are not direct - I am sure they come from word of mouth or another source which as of yet I have been unable to find.

One promising lead was found in a catalogue of the Museum of the Royal Irish Academy, dated 1857:



but from the text that follows I am not sure whether they had a specimen or not, or even if it is only a generalised reference to hones used by cutlers. If they did have an example - maybe it is still around?

Regards,
Neil

Thank you Neil, thank you Piet,

yes, the first thing thant don't convince me is the color, the stone in Olivia pics is a light green and not a forest green, and the second thing is ,like Neil suggest, the grit rating .

Hope one day soon Adrspach make us satisfied.

The sizing of those hones is interesting. Neil do you know anything about real size of those numbers. I am not orienting in them.
You are not the only one who was trying to contact her Neil. Hopefully she is ok and soon will be back with us.

Here are some sizes of the hones in the collection with a bit more detail.



There were other hones in a 'Finds' section of the museum, but these are not covered by the book.

With regard to Olivia, I tried repeatedly over a period of about six months - complete silence though. I wonder what happened?

Regards,
Neil