Thread: Cutler's Greenstone, is a Legend ?

There's someone that have see or own one Cutler's Greenstone ? There are some pics to compare ?
All the notice that I know about this stone is which is green forest in color with blue dots sparkle, and that comes from Snowdonia 's area ,but I've never seen one picture,
I start to believe that's a legend. Hope someone can contradict me.
Thanks

Unfortunately, I'm not be the one who will be able to contradict your opinion. The stone certainly exists, or existed, or it's a subcategory of another hone, but so far, non alive I know or have heard has any documents that confirms he has one. Every day I see hones auctioned for "possible cuttlers green", and, that's all. If we can find an 150 years old person with HAD may provide more information. Until then, everything with forest green colour that is fine enough, with those blue sparkles, is a "possible cuttlers green".

Thank you Vasilis, I think this is one of the most wanted stone, everybody looking for this stone, but no one have see one piece. Maybe one day we can see one. I have recently finish to lap a stone that I'm not sure what is it, lapping time was extremly long, take me 6 days, ( not full day because I work too )and I have never seen a stone hard like this,at first thought I've think was a green Charnley Forest, but after have spend many hours to lap it, I wasn't sure. I start a new thread later where I post some pics.
Yes, I've see ebay auction, but I don't think is the true cutler's green.

I'm not sure if it actually is one of the most wanted stones. Maybe as collectible. The definition of sharp has changed the last 50 years or so, it could be something very very fine or just a coarse emery stone for all I know. If It took you so long to lap it and it's harder than Charnley forest the stone you have, it could be Llyn Idwal. Whenever we have a hard UK hone and we don't know what it is, it's a Llyn idwal.

Originally Posted by Vasilis

I'm not sure if it actually is one of the most wanted stones. Maybe as collectible. The definition of sharp has changed the last 50 years or so, it could be something very very fine or just a coarse emery stone for all I know. If It took you so long to lap it and it's harder than Charnley forest the stone you have, it could be Llyn Idwal. Whenever we have a hard UK hone and we don't know what it is, it's a Llyn idwal.

I don't believe is a Lynn Idwall, I post some pictures, and in a couple of them is between a LI (or Grecian Hone ) on left side and a unknow stone on right side.

From those three, the first is definitely a grecian hone, the other two are Llyn idwal or some Scottish variety of TOS or something like that. We haven't been able to distinguish them yet. For your Grecian hone, how fine do you think it is? Mine, labeled, doesn't look like a finisher. Around 4k with water I would say, and nowhere as hard as a Llyn Idwal, but quite fast.

Edit; The third one also looks like a grecian. But I could be wrong.

For your Grecian hone, how fine do you think it is? Mine, labeled, doesn't look like a finisher. Around 4k with water I would say


No, mine are decidedly a finisher, Grecian around 10K, the green in middle around 12K and the one on right side 15K ( what I believe is one of the 3 kind of Lynn Idwall, this one is the more finisher ) .

What's correct name Lynn or Llyn, maybe I mistake with Lynn of SRP or you with Llyn Melynllyn, I thinkyou are correct.

10-15k with water? That's really fine. And they look the same, especially the one on the left. It's Llyn, it means lake. I'm not sure in what language though. With oil it gets finer, but not as fine as a Llyn Melynllyn, I have a lot of experience with them.

Yes with water and without slurry, I don't use oil on my stones.
Grit rating is always a rash decision with naturals, but this is my guess based on my knowledge.

This is the one I have, http://straightrazorpalace.com/hones...ian-hones.html
The first 4 photos with the date. I haven't tried to hone one of my razors with this one yet, I always keep them in good condition, but for my knives, the edge and the scratch pattern, it doesn't looks or feels like a finisher. Perhaps I'll give it a try today.