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    Interesting info, thanks for sharing. Now I want one if onlynfor the case of trying one
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Size:  25.7 KBI will add mine. Interesting thing about it that the writting is in azhbuka (Russian).
    Thank you for your info. Originaly I was suspecting that it was made out of coti powder. Do you have any information about variations between numbers and sources of the powder used for that particular type/number?

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    adrspach,

    that's what I have posted, I think that this yellow stones were made of coticule powder (the stones made of y/g thuringian powder don't look yellow, but more greenish/gray).
    The coticule-like stones were called Reform-Brocken (I cannot reallly see on your picture if this are the words stamped there too). In german old coticules are called "Belgischer Brocken". So "Reform Brocken" means something like -new, reformed coticule-.

    I have got two different types and that's what I think the numbers refer to.
    Number 5 is stamped fine, number 4 extra-fine.


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    I suppose different mesh sizes were used to sieve the powder and to fabricate this different types.

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    That is very interesting, thanks for the history lesson! Do these stones go for the same prices?

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Size:  38.2 KBThank you Hatzicho for confirmation. My one is the extra fine No4 version. Funny is that the box is written in Russian and stone itself in German.
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    sure wish I owned one of those cotis bet they go for a pretty penny

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    Quote Originally Posted by sleekandsmooth View Post
    sure wish I owned one of those cotis bet they go for a pretty penny
    I do but sadly it is not likely that I will ever have time to try it. Too many hones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xMackx View Post
    That is very interesting, thanks for the history lesson! Do these stones go for the same prices?
    I wouldn't think they would bring the kind of prices natural Escher stones bring but I don't know for sure. I'm not sure how rare they are but before this thread was posted I had never seen or heard of them. IMHO this is a stone that would be more desirable to a collector than a honer. Then again, I may be wrong, perhaps they are the equal of the Chosera stones ?

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    @JimmyHAD
    Agree to what you said. I have not come across many of this stones and don't think they have been exported to the States or somwhere else in high numbers.
    So there are not enough stones around to create demand and high prices. It is a collector item as you have said.

    Ardspachs info about the russian boxed stone is very interesting. I think the stones made of y/g thuringian powder are older than the coticule-like stones, they might have been the first try IGES did with artificial stones.
    During the GDR time eastern germany and therefore also the thuringian area around Sonneberg has been under russian control and the stones exported to russia might have been of this time.

    Anyhow the story didn't go well for JGES during the GDR regime. The latest owners were put into prison for several years for no reason at all, the company was taken over by the government, consolidated, renamed and closed after some more years of operation.

    That's the end of the Escher story.
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    Sad and so typical for those times.

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