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08-27-2012, 04:14 AM #1
Ck2go opinions
Sup guys I'm looking for a finisher after my 12k nani and I've found on this website a stone for a decent price so I was curious about your opinions about ck2go here is the stone
Ozuku Asagi (Koppa)
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08-27-2012, 04:32 AM #2
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Thanked: 13245The Stefan that wrote one of the reviews sounds like it might be Mainaman why not PM him and ask if he likes the stone for razors if it is him
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08-27-2012, 04:35 AM #3
Here's a recent thread that's on your topic. It has some good advice and cautions. Mainaman is right on with his posts IMO. Without a reliable seller familiar with razor honing, and having tested the stone, it's a crap shoot!!!
http://straightrazorpalace.com/hones...agi-koppa.html
Regards,
Howard
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08-27-2012, 04:42 AM #4
Ineed to contact the dealer and see if they do great with razors or if he has tried using the stone for razors
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08-27-2012, 03:53 PM #5
Just to throw my two cents in: CKTG is a great business, run by a great guy. I've bought stuff from them for a while, including my Kanenaga Kamisori, and find the products and service to be stellar. I hope you have the same experience.
It's interesting: the stone's description is said to be a favorite of "Takeda." That's Shosui Takeda, the bladesmith. He's also collaborated with Mastro Livi on a few razors I've seen around in this forum. If memory serves me correctly, it's Takeda's steel forged into a razor by Mastro Livi. I'd sure like to have one of those.
Cheers,
Jack
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08-27-2012, 04:01 PM #6
$70.00 sounds cheap for a Jnat to me, even for an Ozuku. They are small, that may be why. The stone market seems to have come down quite a bit. Mainaman is the resident expert on Jnat's, drop him a pm.
I've not had much luck with my Ozuku, but I seem to be the exception to the rule, my honest opinion is that they're over rated. Very hard, very fine stones. It took two other experts, and a good deal of time, money, and different slurries to figure mine out.....Oooops, Sorry...."Tomonagura"
Maybe you'll have better luck than I did. The Ozuku was the only stone that ever gave me that kind of trouble.
I've also had dealing with Chefs Knives. No problems....Good vendor....I bought an item off him, and had some doubts after I received it. He told me to use it for a year, and if I still was unsure, he gladly refund all my money. Now, that's "Satisfaction Guaranteed."Last edited by zib; 08-27-2012 at 04:31 PM.
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08-28-2012, 03:33 PM #7
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Thanked: 458I posted in the other thread, and thought I know it pains people to hear it, but the koppa that I got from CKTG worked very well for western straights. It was as fine as the razor grade stones I've gotten and plenty big to sharpen a razor.
If you want to try one, call them and ask if they can pick the finest and most dense one they have for you. You have almost nothing to lose at that price, and if budget really is an issue, if you don't like it I seriously doubt you couldn't unload it on ebay and be out only $20 or so when all is said and done.
I kept mine in slurry as a prelude to my finest finisher that I like to keep completely unmolested and it worked very well. A person could buy one of those koppa and a slurry stone of any kind (even an inexpensive c12 slurry) and maintain a razor their entire life.
I have too many more expensive stones and ended up cutting mine up for tomonagura, but it was so hard and dense that I think the surface will have to be slotted to use for tomonagura.
As someone mentioned above, ozuku might not be your favorite if you have the opportunity to try some of the older mine stones that are both hard and smooth feeling (ozuku stones to me are a bit "tinky" and cold feeling), but they will do their job.
I have also bought an ozuku that was less dense and not grade for razor and it is much much less fine in finish than the cktg stone. At its lesser grit it makes a fantastic fast cutting stone for white steel (chisels and planes), or as a prefinishing step for razors, and it still has that wonderful tendency that natural stones do - it stays flat.
I'd like us to be realistic about how much people are risking when they want to experiment, though. We're not even risking $70, we're risking what would be left over if you have to sell the thing, and it's not very much money. If someone wants to try one, I personally would encourage them to do so, check it for flatness, flatten it if needed and give it a chance to settle in. Mine was quite good, and somewhere around 6 x3 (maybe even a bit wider) inches or something like that, plenty large. I felt almost like I was getting something very good for very little, and if $70 was my stopping point, I haven't seen anything better.
(I wouldn't, however spend $300 or so on a full size one because you can go to specialty seller like Alex Gilmore and get an awful lot of razor stone that's personally selected for that much money. The dynamic changes when you're not saving money).Last edited by DaveW; 08-28-2012 at 03:55 PM.
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08-28-2012, 07:54 PM #8
Tyler, just a kudo for asking the guys about this. IMHO, it was a very wise thing to do.