Thread: Jnat Hone ID

thanks Stefan.

Originally Posted by regularjoe

Asagi means blue. And Suita means su..as in the holes on the surface of the stone. And Kiita would be the color. No way to tell if it's Nakayama because there aren't any stamps. But I'll be interested to read what people with actual JNS experience have to say. I'm just regurgitating what I've read.

Ooops...honemiester I am not. Didn't notice that qualifier..sorry.

The colour is not Kiita. It is a grey /blue Asagi. Just has some Yake (orange) which will make it cut fast & slightly scratchy as the OP noted

Originally Posted by onimaru55

The colour is not Kiita. It is a grey /blue Asagi. Just has some Yake (orange) which will make it cut fast & slightly scratchy as the OP noted

I'm seeing the orange but not the blue. it is a fast cutter with the slurry.

thanks

Top 2/3 looks blue on my screen

Originally Posted by onimaru55

Top 2/3 looks blue on my screen

in real light it's brown, cream and orange, no blue or grey at all

Cream is often called habutae but don't know if that one qualifies.

Rouge
Good looking stone, a self generated slurry will be a good test of its character.

There are 2 main types of layers in the Kyoto mines, and each type contains several varieties of stone. The Tomae type has dozens of individual layers. The Suita type has several different individual layers. Within those layers are varieties of stone which are specific to the type. For instance the Tomae type has layers of kiita, asagi, karasu, goshu, namito, asia and so forth. The Suita type has layers of those named like tenjyou, hon, shiki, shiro and so forth. You will find that there's no renge in tomae type stones, and no kiita within the suita layers.
Habutae is a a term transplanted from the Japanese garment industry and it refers specifically to the pure white suita stone that is named after the purest whitest silk used as lining in womens kimono or is also found in a brides kimono. It is not cream colored but looks more like really pure Aichi nagura.
Sorry if my post is too blunt.

Alx

Originally Posted by alx

Rouge
Good looking stone, a self generated slurry will be a good test of its character.

There are 2 main types of layers in the Kyoto mines, and each type contains several varieties of stone. The Tomae type has dozens of individual layers. The Suita type has several different individual layers. Within those layers are varieties of stone which are specific to the type. For instance the Tomae type has layers of kiita, asagi, karasu, goshu, namito, asia and so forth. The Suita type has layers of those named like tenjyou, hon, shiki, shiro and so forth. You will find that there's no renge in tomae type stones, and no kiita within the suita layers.
Habutae is a a term transplanted from the Japanese garment industry and it refers specifically to the pure white suita stone that is named after the purest whitest silk used as lining in womens kimono or is also found in a brides kimono. It is not cream colored but looks more like really pure Aichi nagura.
Sorry if my post is too blunt.

Alx

Alex

thanks for replying, I was hoping you would. Not too blunt at all, doesn't seem blunt in any way, just great info ,as always. This stone does not generate any self slurry and even with a DMT is slow to slurry. What would self slurry be a test of, and what does it mean that it does not?

I love the Oozuku asagi I got from you and I'm not sure if this stone is finer or less fine than that. It's great on slurry but haven't had much luck with many laps on pure water, so I'm not doing that anymore.

thanks again

Mark

in real light it's brown, cream and orange, no blue or grey at all

That's what it looks like on my screen too. No blue.

I understood kiita to be egg color. Perhaps I should have specified. I guess I better head back to JNS, and re-read his pics and descriptions again.