Thread: Jnat Hone ID

Honemeisters please help me out. A friend loaned me his beautiful Jnat that he said is a Nakayama Asagi. Most of the asagi's I've seen are grey. this looks more like a Suita. It's a VERY hard stone. Here's the front and the skin. any ideas?

Asagi means blue. And Suita means su..as in the holes on the surface of the stone. And Kiita would be the color. No way to tell if it's Nakayama because there aren't any stamps. But I'll be interested to read what people with actual JNS experience have to say. I'm just regurgitating what I've read.

Ooops...honemiester I am not. Didn't notice that qualifier..sorry.

It's a nice looking stone from Kioto. If it doesn't have holes(su) and is super hard, it probably isn't a Suita. Granted the "colour scheme" is very close to that of a typical Suita stone. It shouldn't matter either way, unless you're a collector.

Originally Posted by tagandlog

It's a nice looking stone from Kioto. If it doesn't have holes(su) and is super hard, it probably isn't a Suita. Granted the "colour scheme" is very close to that of a typical Suita stone. It shouldn't matter either way, unless you're a collector.

there are no holes and it's very hard so no suita. not a collector just curious.
thank you for your reply

Originally Posted by regularjoe

Asagi means blue. And Suita means su..as in the holes on the surface of the stone. And Kiita would be the color. No way to tell if it's Nakayama because there aren't any stamps. But I'll be interested to read what people with actual JNS experience have to say. I'm just regurgitating what I've read.

Ooops...honemiester I am not. Didn't notice that qualifier..sorry.

hey thanks for the info. I didnt know asagi meant blue.perhaps I shouldn't have requested just honemeisters. any info is great.

I suspect only a real expert on these can tell you whether it is really a Nakayama, and even then there will probably be a decent margin of error. Unless the stamps are on the sides, and even then...

Looks to me as though it definitely is predominantly asagi, with some renge (red pear-like spotting) and perhaps even blending into karasu. As long as it is not too scratchy (a common problem with asagi) it will most likely be a very nice stone, and relatively quick cutting particularly with slurry. It's own slurry, made by a diamond plate (preferably something that is not going to scratch up the surface, like an Atoma 1200 or similar).

Enjoy the stone.

James.

That stone reminds me of one that I used to own and sold to some one in CA. Same color scheme , the dark brown corners, only mine was mounted on a base.
Mine was sold to me as Nakayama, it was very very good stone, fast and really fine and easy to use.
What is the thickness of that stone?

Originally Posted by mainaman

That stone reminds me of one that I used to own and sold to some one in CA. Same color scheme , the dark brown corners, only mine was mounted on a base.
Mine was sold to me as Nakayama, it was very very good stone, fast and really fine and easy to use.
What is the thickness of that stone?

I am from California and so my friend ( carazor here) here are the sides.

Originally Posted by Jimbo

I suspect only a real expert on these can tell you whether it is really a Nakayama, and even then there will probably be a decent margin of error. Unless the stamps are on the sides, and even then...

Looks to me as though it definitely is predominantly asagi, with some renge (red pear-like spotting) and perhaps even blending into karasu. As long as it is not too scratchy (a common problem with asagi) it will most likely be a very nice stone, and relatively quick cutting particularly with slurry. It's own slurry, made by a diamond plate (preferably something that is not going to scratch up the surface, like an Atoma 1200 or similar).

Enjoy the stone.

James.

don't really care if it's an " authentic" nakayama or not ,really. It works great with it's slurry stone and is a bit scratchy if I take it to plain water, so I don't do that. Just wondering if someone recognized it. I haven't tried using it with it's own slurry. I have a worn out dmt 325 I can use to try.

thanks

Yes I knew it
that used to be mine a long time a go
http://straightrazorpalace.com/hones...at-club-3.html
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great stone