Thread: Mystery Nagura

Mikawa Shiro Nagura Chu Nagura 8.7oz. (243.6g) seems similar, not the same tho

Found this when googleing the kanji Tierdaen so kindly wrote down; ギター製作家ã�®è¦–点: ç¥çŸ³ã�®ä¸�æ€�è°　ã��ã�®ï¼’

Originally Posted by Tierdaen

Yes, the kanji are the right way up and say "Iwasaki select".

I am no expert but I've heard conflicting stories about whether or not any of the Iwasaki family actually sold or approved stones themselves. There seems to be a lot of marketing fog in the Jnat market and for some reason Non-Japanese (and non-Chinese) are prone to trusting stamps simply because they have Chinese characters on them (kanji means Chinese character, fwiw).

The Iwasaki-stamped stones at aframestokyo, as a general example, seem to be Nakayama and are not extremely hard. Takeshi told me once that they might be suitable for older kamisori like Henkotsu which are usually a bit softer, but wouldn't be ideal for finishing modern kamisori or harder Western razors.

Iwasaki never was in the stone business, people from the forum met with him and asked him specifically.
There are a lot of fake stamps out there that are used on low quality stones with intent to bring high profits.

Originally Posted by Lemur

Found this when googleing the kanji Tierdaen so kindly wrote down; ギター製作家ã�®è¦–点: ç*¥çŸ³ã�®ä¸�æ€�è*°　ã��ã�®ï¼’

That guy makes gutars and has very cool youtube channel, he has a lot of Jnats that he uses in his plane sharpening videos.

Originally Posted by mainaman

Iwasaki never was in the stone business, people from the forum met with him and asked him specifically.
There are a lot of fake stamps out there that are used on low quality stones with intent to bring high profits.

Which people? We want to know their names.


BTW here they are Iwasaki-san (Iwasaki Shigeyoshi) and his successor Mizuochi-san (Mizuochi Ryouichi):
http://www.geocities.com/soatoz/hamo.../Kamisori.html

Originally Posted by mainaman

There are a lot of fake stamps out there that are used on low quality stones with intent to bring high profits.

Is there a topic here ( or site, webpage, what not ) where I can go and see all that fake stamps?

Currently I know the only one to avoid. It is 山城銘砥 nearby 正本山本格品

Originally Posted by Nikolay

Which people? We want to know their names.




Is there a topic here ( or site, webpage, what not ) where I can go and see all that fake stamps?

They have not been active for over a year I think.
I do not think the fake stamps are going to look different than the real ones.

Originally Posted by mainaman

They have not been active for over a year I think.

I see. And I know the reason.

Originally Posted by mainaman

I do not think the fake stamps are going to look different than the real ones.

What do you think abous this:
http://image1.shopserve.jp/munemasa....07-605-850.jpg

The stone №2 has both Maruka stamp ㋕ and that 「岩崎選 」。

And what about this?
http://straightrazorpalace.com/membe...hi-maruka.html
http://straightrazorpalace.com/membe...hi-maruka.html

Seems to be also Maruka, but you see bad suji and that the lines of stamps are ragged... I think it is a fake.
BTW there are some other signs of fake on this stone.

excellent blog that, autotranslate in Chromium deals well with most of it, unfortunately only half of the really long posts, like the history of steel one

Originally Posted by mainaman

That guy makes gutars and has very cool youtube channel, he has a lot of Jnats that he uses in his plane sharpening videos.

His name is Kiyoto Tanaka （　田中清人　）.
https://plus.google.com/112346508763532229623/posts
http://www6.ocn.ne.jp/~kiyond/

Originally Posted by etorix

excellent blog that, autotranslate in Chromium deals well with most of it, unfortunately only half of the really long posts, like the history of steel one

There is a better tool for translation: http://www.excite.co.jp/world/english/web/
choose 日→英 in the dropdown list under URL to translate from Japanese to English.

Originally Posted by Nikolay

His name is Kiyoto Tanaka.
https://plus.google.com/112346508763532229623/posts

Right I am aware,I follow him pretty close