Thread: 1000-3000 grit and a 12,000

Originally Posted by deejaykamoe

it couldnt pass the hanging hair test

Really ????

How did it do on all the other tests ???? did you try the Shave Test



here

http://straightrazorpalace.com/honin...ml#post1117599

Originally Posted by Lemur

Any pictures of you r stones or links to where you bought them?

this is my 1000/3000

TAIDEA 1000/3000 Grit Knife Sharpener Corundum Whetstone Sharpening Stone T0961W | eBay

this is the 12000

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/221191551451?...84.m1497.l2649

Originally Posted by deejaykamoe

this is my 1000/3000

TAIDEA 1000/3000 Grit Knife Sharpener Corundum Whetstone Sharpening Stone T0961W | eBay

this is the 12000

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/221191551451?...84.m1497.l2649

That Chinese 12k is a notoriously slow stone especially if you're trying to refine a 3k edge. I know Lynn & Glenn did the whole 1 stone honing trip with one but I'd bet it's not their preferred honing method. Unless you're happy to spend a bunch of time on each stone do what I advised before & bridge a stone between the 3 & 12.

Forget the HHT @ 1k & reserve it for a stropped edge & only then with hair that you know can be cut with other razors, a DE blade will do to calibrate. Shaving arm hair is an adequate test @ 1k but as with the stock market it's best to have more than one indicator to guide you.

Originally Posted by onimaru55

That Chinese 12k is a notoriously slow stone especially if you're trying to refine a 3k edge. I know Lynn & Glenn did the whole 1 stone honing trip with one but I'd bet it's not their preferred honing method. Unless you're happy to spend a bunch of time on each stone do what I advised before & bridge a stone between the 3 & 12.

Forget the HHT @ 1k & reserve it for a stropped edge & only then with hair that you know can be cut with other razors, a DE blade will do to calibrate. Shaving arm hair is an adequate test @ 1k but as with the stock market it's best to have more than one indicator to guide you.

How many passes would you say is slow on the 12k 200?

i have as set naniwa 800-5000-12000 and they work well.
Someone of my friend said that is big jump from 5000 to 12000...but isn't true.
The 12000 is a fantastic stone to polishing and revitalize the blade

Originally Posted by deejaykamoe

How many passes would you say is slow on the 12k 200?

Yes I had one that was that slow but I used it after an 8k not a 3k. Possibly correct use of slurry may speed it up but you have a learning process ahead of you.

Originally Posted by kratos86

i have as set naniwa 800-5000-12000 and they work well.
Someone of my friend said that is big jump from 5000 to 12000...but isn't true.
The 12000 is a fantastic stone to polishing and revitalize the blade

The OP has a natural stone known to be a slow stone not a synthetic.
5 -> 12 k in a known synthetic progression is not a big jump. You just use the 12k a bit longer than if you had an 8k in between.

thank you for explanation

No problemo. I missed it too till OP said it was a natural stone.

Originally Posted by deejaykamoe

hi i am new to straight razor shaving, and i wanted to know if i set the bevel on a 1000, then a 3000 then jump to a 12,000 for polishing, is that too big of a jump? even if i spend a good while polishing the edge on the 12000

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Maybe you could get yourself a cheap KING 6000 grit to make the jump to the 12000 a bit simpler. I have one and it is a decent stone to use.

Someone once posted that the KING 6000 may well be actually closer to 7ooo or 8ooo grit. If there is any truth to that, it would be truly a good buy for your jump.

Jerry
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If your 3K stone is one of the smoother ones like the naniwa super stone and you start with a thick slurry on the Chinese "12K" hone, slowly diluting with one or two drops of water I see no problem. Most of the honing is done on the 1K anyway, after that you're just refining the edge. GSSIXGUN did a video with a Chinese 12K going straight from 1K to the C12K, I learned a lot from that video, not only about the C12K but honing in general.
Start with a medium thick slurry on the C12K and firm pressure and dilute slowly and ease up on the pressure, it will get you there.
I think those Chinese 12 naturals are highly underrated, mainly because they're cheap and vary a lot between stones but the one I have works great, fairly fast and gives great edges.