1000-3000 grit and a 12,000

**deejaykamoe** · 03-02-2013, 03:57 PM

Can someone tell me a good formula of passes i should do on my 1000 to make the bevel, passes for the 3000 and passes for my 12000? I tried honing and i think it might be either overhoned or not honed enough. Im a newbie to this. Im testing on a gold dollar so i dont care about ruining it

Thanks

**Datsots** · 03-02-2013, 05:15 PM

A formula like the pyramid method won't work on a razor that needs the bevel set and only those grits available. You do have the makings of one stone honing. As long as your GD does not have any serious issues, continue as below.

If the bevel is still factory, put one layer of tape on. Do 20 circles on both sides, evaluate the wear pattern on the tape. If you don't mind what that looks like take the tape off and don't look back however; if you want the spine to be pristine keep the tape. If no serious issues show up keep going. Badly ground stabilizers is a very common issue. Now 20 more circles with pressure and test for a set bevel, TNT LRT TPT. Continue with the circles with pressure until the razor almost passes the tests you choose. Now do 20 circles with very little pressure and 10 x strokes, test and repeat until it passes. Once the razor passes do 10 more minimal pressure x strokes.

Now do 100 passes on plain leather, followed by a test shave. Replicating the Beginners, The 1k shave thread. It wont be a great smooth shave but it must shave well.

If the shave test goes well move on to the 3k. If using tape don't remove the worn tape just add one layer. 20 circles and 10 x strokes with light pressure. 10 more x strokes with minimal pressure.

From here on will basically be one stone honing on the 12k. For this see Gssixgun's Chinese one stone hone videos. He communicates much better with the video than I could with text.

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**Puerco** · 03-03-2013, 06:14 AM

Yeah, those video's are the ones, great info in there and I learned a lot from them.
Because of this I got me a chosera and a big Cnat like the one Glenn used only to make it easier on myself I usually use a 3K and/or a coticule in between but it's great to see how it can be done right of the 1K chosera.
The Chinese natural is a great hone, mine doesn't see much use anymore since I got a Japanese natural but after discussing it here I honed a razor on the Cnat last night and had a great, close and comfortable shave with it.
I lapped the smoothest side of it to use with razors and the other side I use for my knives as I like them sharp too.

**saitou** · 03-04-2013, 07:21 AM

I think get a reasonably priced hone to fit inbetween the 3 and the 12 is still the best bet, naniwa 8k, or a kitayama I heard is good as well but some people say its more like a 10k so i'm not sure. norton 4k/8k seems to be very popular too.

the king 1k/16k might be good as then you have 1 3 6 12~ and king's hones are very reasonably priced.

**robert2286** · 11-19-2013, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by mrsell63

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Maybe you could get yourself a cheap KING 6000 grit to make the jump to the 12000 a bit simpler. I have one and it is a decent stone to use.

Someone once posted that the KING 6000 may well be actually closer to 7ooo or 8ooo grit. If there is any truth to that, it would be truly a good buy for your jump.

Jerry
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Indeed! My king 6k is ceramic smooth! Lol well almost! It is a bit slow and thirsty ! Usually u can get them with the 6k slurry! And this speeds up the process alot! I go super heavy slurry with the 6k all the way to just water... I do believe this stone behaves like a 7k ... I like this stone... A bit narrow compared to naniwas/nortons doe! Thats the .02 of a noob

**TaranStone** · 11-20-2013, 09:08 PM

My King 1k/6k acts more like a 8k on the fine side, especially if I start with a nice thick slurry and then move to plain water by dilution.

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