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    Thanks for the link! I think their combination stone is a lower end one: http://www.axminster.co.uk/recno/4/p...ones-22468.htm. It is described as a beginners' stone.

    The one I am looking for is a King Deluxe stone.

    The one on the left on this pic may be a Deluxe hone: the word "KING" in a circle.: http://www.axminster.co.uk/showimage...title=Japanese Fine & Polishing Waterstones

    I am not sure that one has many advantages above a coticule or Thuringer followed by stropping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ernestrome View Post
    www.axminster.co.uk you will need to check whether it is a g-1 or a different 8000 grit stone, because king make a variety of stones, but from the photo's i can tell it is one of their higher end ones because they sell them with a nice plastic base.

    I would be tempted to go for the 10000 grit stone axminster sell, which is a Kitayama (Norht Mountain) stone. When i have some cash i think i will buy one of them.
    I'm in the UK also, so took a look at the Axminster site. I'm just starting out with straights and am trying to get a basic set of tools together.

    I've just bought a vintage (read: blunt) razor from an antiques shop and need to get it sharp. I've also ordered a Norton 4000/8000 stone. Would the 10,000G stone sold be Axminster be something I could use after coming off the Norton, before going to a hanging strop? Or might I be better off with a pasted paddle?

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    It would be something you could use, alternatives would be yellow coticules, thuringens etc. I am aving up for the 10K, so if you ddn't like it, i'm sure we could sort something out!

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    I've had a 1000/6000 King for years due to my collection of Japanese knives, primarily sushi knives. I've used the 1000 side instead of sandpaper to grind out an edge on my eBay razors. As far as I can tell, it works well for that. These Japanese stones need to be immersed in water for about 10 minutes or until the bubbling stops prior to use. I just sold a rather expensive sushi knife to a friend who is a half Japanese sushi chef and he said that he was going to buy a Belgian blue for the knife, the 4X10 Belgian blue that Howard sells. The one issue that makes Japanese stones difficult to use is that they must be flattened after each use or they develop a noticeable concave sway. Of course this is when used with sushi knives where a lot of steel is being ground away. But they do wear away quickly and so need constant attention. My experience with razors is very limited and recent but I just feel that the Japanese whetstones are better for the steel than sandpaper. I have to believe that the cut that the stone makes on the steel is not as deep and is smoother when compared with sandpaper.

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    Gents,

    Can you help, I bought a King Home 8000 from axminster, I got it about 4 years ago. But I have never had any success with it. To the point of it would remove the edge from my usable razor, so I gave up. I feel confident it is me and not the hone that if faulty.

    So it has been sitting in the cupboard for a while, but seeing this post has made me rethink it's value.

    Can anyone give me some guidance on how to use it. I can get pretty much any razor to a usable state with my norton combination and diamond paste, so my honing technique is OK ish.

    Any help is appreciated.

    Peter

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    I have had the same issue for several months now. I have some of these stones in 4000 and 8000 grit used for plane blades. I have been unable to achieve anything with them other than dulling the razors that I have. Broke down and got a norton today and had 4 razors sharp after about an hour. havent shaved with them yet, but they are way sharper than they were off the king stones. Very strange indeed.

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    I have one, I find it useful for setting a bevel after removing an excessive smile or a frown or following a restoration.

    For the sharpening I go to my norton.

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