Thread: In praise of micro bevels for problem razors

I'll second that, I had big problems with an Hart first generation razor, very frustrating, I eventually got the razor sharp from toe to heel I had to use two layers of tape and even though I got a fairly even bevel I wasn't convinced the geometry of the razor was correct, not a razor I would advise a newbie honer to try out may frustrate the hell out of him.

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Search "Hart Razor Bevel" angle on here while you are at it

See assumptions can mess with you, as you are going to learn from the search early Hart razors had a bevel angle that was more in the 13 degree range and many had an issue with holding an edge.. This was improved on as production moved forward, I have not measured a Hart in a couple of years, but again if I were you I would simply measure the angle to see where it is really at to start then go from there..

I picked up a caliper off of Amazon this morning. I suppose that should be a standard piece of equipment in my honing tool box. It could potentially save some time up front by taking a few up front measurements.

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

Send me copy of your honemeister certificate level 5 and I'll send the razor your way.

I stopped at Level 3 when I realized it was just a "pyramid scheme"

With the millions of razors that were produced, I'm sure they were many Monday morning razors that were slightly off in the grind. I don't know if they knew about tape for correcting the bevel angle in the old days, but I'm guessing they didn't. I've seen many old razors with no hone wear, but needed at least one or two layers of tape to get the edge popping. My guess is that once the original users couldn't get a good edge, the razor was placed aside and not used until this tape generation came along and could get it right. I've seen many wedges that had bevel angles all over the place. With the sheer numbers of razors that were produced, you can be sure there were defects. Just my two cents.

Or more than likely they were honed spine off the hone. Ive had my share of them.

Originally Posted by OCDshaver

I picked up a caliper off of Amazon this morning. I suppose that should be a standard piece of equipment in my honing tool box. It could potentially save some time up front by taking a few up front measurements.

So the caliper arrived today. Although nothing was under the 15 degree angle, all of the razors that were giving me trouble were right at the 15 degree mark. The PJM that I mentioned previously was one such razor. I added enough tape to bring the angle very close to 20 degrees. BAM! Problem solved. I'm now convinced that a caliper and the angle calculation are vital tools for honing.

Level 5 HMC?

Good Lord, in California you can perform marriages with a level 5… or was that a class 5 Drivers License.