Thank you all for the advice, after reading everything you have posted i think i am getting an idea of what i am doing wrong. I am not cleaning my hones enough, wiping enough, and i need to chamfer my edges before honing, on top of that i need to slow down and take my time to make sure that i dont drop off the edge. I am not using that much slurry but i bring it up with a 10k slurry stone and clean my hones with a coarse (325 i think) DMT. As far as finding a hone mentor i am looking in the san diego area but no luck as of yet but i am still hopeful otherwise i am in for a drive to find some one on one help. Thanks for your input and help, i will let you know how it go's with the corrections you have suggested.