Need some honing tips!

**aa1192** · 05-10-2014, 02:35 AM

There is actually a second part to that video I should mention also. Yeah raising the spine while trying to put a bevel on a breadknife makes a huge difference in speed. Buy a 1k they are cheap and worth every penny. I suggest the Nani 1k but if you're a baller I hear the Choseras are the way to go.

**pfries** · 05-10-2014, 02:49 AM

Originally Posted by aa1192

There is actually a second part to that video I should mention also. Yeah raising the spine while trying to put a bevel on a breadknife makes a huge difference in speed. Buy a 1k they are cheap and worth every penny. I suggest the Nani 1k but if you're a baller I hear the Choseras are the way to go.

Not Just raising the spine to put an edge on a breadknife but doing it as the corrective honing method.

A rule of thumb I try to follow Use a tack hammer for tacks and a sledge hammer for concrete.

I only drop as far in grit as I feel I need to in order to accomplish the task at hand, this holds true for the extremity of the technique.

You can always go more extreme, you cannot take back what is done, no part of this hobby has lent itself to being in a hurry from my experience.

Just my .02

**aa1192** · 05-10-2014, 02:50 AM

Originally Posted by pfries

aa1192 that is a great video and I got sucked into watching it again (I wonder if Glen knows how charismatic he is???)

True bread knifing like that is extreme, I did one once when I was starting out and it took me several hours to reset the bevel on my 5K Naniwa.
(I insisted on not using lower grit stones on a razor until I had my strokes committed to muscle memory, don't ask I am weird like that.)

A slightly raised spine approach is usually good enough to deal with chips and issues and leaves the blade edge in a condition that can be brought back much more efficiently from my experience.

If anyone would like a more detailed explanation let me know, it is not a new technique but I cannot recall a detailed video on it.

There is a short section of a video from the Asheville meet where Randydance touches on it as well.

I always find it weird I know who Glen is. He is like a straight celebrity along with a few other famous shavers. I have never formally met the guy, yet I have seen his dining room, laundry room, and shave den. Thank god guys put up vids for people like me.

**ksarti1986** · 05-12-2014, 04:34 PM

This is a great video...thank you!

**ksarti1986** · 05-12-2014, 04:41 PM

Hello Siguy,

I have looking at the blade under magnification, and later today I'll try and post a pic. So I honed a different place yesterday and was able to shave with it. Still feel it could have come out a little better, but the place that has a little ding in it still have not been able to take it out on the 4000 side of the stone. Also, I have one razor that only the front and middle of the blade are getting honed and the bad end is not. I'm starting to see some bad honing marks and uneven hone marks on the stone. I sand the stone down again, but maybe I'm holding the razor wrong.

**Siguy** · 05-12-2014, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by ksarti1986

Hello Siguy,

I have looking at the blade under magnification, and later today I'll try and post a pic. So I honed a different place yesterday and was able to shave with it. Still feel it could have come out a little better, but the place that has a little ding in it still have not been able to take it out on the 4000 side of the stone. Also, I have one razor that only the front and middle of the blade are getting honed and the bad end is not. I'm starting to see some bad honing marks and uneven hone marks on the stone. I sand the stone down again, but maybe I'm holding the razor wrong.

You really need to get that ding out. If it were me, I'd go back to the 4K and hone til it is gone, like Birnando said. Takes time.

I really don't know where to start with your statement about the blade with the "bad end". Take picks of both blades, edges and north-south blad orientation pic(to see if the blade has warping), pictures of the stones as well.

We really like pictures

**pinklather** · 05-12-2014, 09:27 PM

I understand the costs add up when you're learning, but I sure wouldn't want to try learning restoration and honing at the same time. I wouldn't try resto w/ a 4k if I were well paid. 'Would be nice to be able to get the 'feel' of the blade and the stone when things are as they should be, then tackle the blades that need restorative grinding. You're on a hard path, my friend. Any member near you that would help w/ either some tutorial time or have some lower grit stones they'd let you use? 'Would save alot of work & frustration. Good Luck.