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    I'm buying a new hone and found this one with 8000 grit on ebay for 46$ with shipping new. So, what is this for miracle, is it good or should i look away? Also there is Elsass ceramic for 36$. To ge on of them or stick to the original plan and buy c12k?

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    I don't have 1 but I am sure a read the MST are a modern version of a Escher or BBW but not as good a quality
    Don't know of the Elsass
    The C12 can be unpredictable
    I know there are a few who have them and can comment with actual experience with them

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    but save the extra coin and get a Naniwa SS 12k if you want to do your own touch ups, these are a great stone and there is an abundance of info videos and experienced people that can help you with it
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    Main problem is that i don't have a huge budget, max 60$

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    Again don't rush save your coins a bit longer and get the Nani 12k it will be a lot better in the long run
    It will last you years and is a lot easier and consistent to learn and use
    An inferior hone will cause you frustration and the need to buy another later down the track costing you even more.
    I really recommend holding off and getting the Nani 12k you will not regret it
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    Not trying to be an a$$ but take the advice to save up , buying twice is still more that buying once the right way. Go with the proven Naniwa 12k one time you,ll be dollars ahead. Tc
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    Well i think i will get naniwa 12k next week. It isn't that much expensive as i tough it would be. 97€ with shipping included, and i get an first class product. So i won't buy tobs aftershaves but rather i'm investing in naniwa this month.
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    I had an MST Thuringian, not the light green quality from the Eschers but in my eyes at least on the niveau of most of the darker Eschers and Celebrated Water Razor Hones i had, enough for a smooth Thuringian Finish but not comparable to the 10k or 12k artifical hones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockabillyhelge View Post
    I had an MST Thuringian, not the light green quality from the Eschers but in my eyes at least on the niveau of most of the darker Eschers and Celebrated Water Razor Hones i had, enough for a smooth Thuringian Finish but not comparable to the 10k or 12k artifical hones.
    Exactly.

    It is not a terrible hone but it is held to the standard of Eschers and it fails in comparison. MY MST Muller hone does not produce as good of an edge on MY two Chinese hones. However, it can and does produce a perfectly good shave able edge.

    They are rocks and they are going to vary. A synthetic is going to be more consistent from hone to hone in comparison to a group of similar natural hones.
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    I just picked up a what would be known as a probable MST Thuringian type stone. It is in the 8-9k range I would say and does a decent job. I would say however I will always finish on my Naniwa 12K because I think it is more to getting the edge super slick smooth. I think the new age Thury as I like to call it may be a nice stone to set up the 12K but then again I have Norton 8k that is just as great at that.

    Hey, the Thuringians are getting rarer by the month. If you ever get to lay your hands on one you might want to pony up the money and get it. I know I will.
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