Thread: How is my honing coming?

This is the best picture I could get with my microscope... It's not use so I had to angle her just perfectly... Let me know what you think, this is after my 15k shapton

The edge looks pretty straight and should shave, but there are some microchips that stem from deep stria, some of which have not been completely removed.

If you joint the edge and reset it on the 15k the edge should straighten out. Or try side honing to remove the deep stria then reset the edge.

It is a good demonstration, of why you need to remove the previous stria from each stone, especially the bevel set stria. If you don’t, you will pay for it later, in time.

If you copy and enlarge the photo the stria layers and terminus are easily visible. What is the magnification?

Originally Posted by Euclid440

The edge looks pretty straight and should shave, but there are some microchips that stem from deep stria, some of which have not been completely removed.

If you joint the edge and reset it on the 15k the edge should straighten out. Or try side honing to remove the deep stria then reset the edge.

It is a good demonstration, of why you need to remove the previous stria from each stone, especially the bevel set stria. If you don’t, you will pay for it later, in time.


If you copy and enlarge the photo the stria layers and terminus are easily visible. What is the magnification?

Thanks! Well at 100x magnification it doesn't seem like it's that close, so supposedly this is 160x but this looks more similar to what a buddies 100x microscope looks like

I'm really trying to get this honing down and I really thought I had gotten the hang of it until I got this damn microscope lol jk but I've been really patient and slow this time around and it just seems right when I've been working for some time I'll find a chips in places.... So I'll go back to the lower grits to try and fix them, then I'll get it all lined up again them right when I get on my finisher, more chips... I haven't been doing much with scratch pattern...

Deep scratches end in chip, always, sometimes we hone them out, sometimes not, then weaken the steel at the edge and surface later. So make sure the heavy stria is removed early on.

This is probably a very shavable edge, but could break down and chip out after some stropping.

Go easy on pressure as it causes deep stria, this is where most folks error.

This is what, this post on the Transition Stone is all about and why it might be the most important stone in the progression, especially for novice honers.

Originally Posted by Euclid440

Deep scratches end in chip, always, sometimes we hone them out, sometimes not, then weaken the steel at the edge and surface later. So make sure the heavy stria is removed early on.

This is probably a very shavable edge, but could break down and chip out after some stropping.

Go easy on pressure as it causes deep stria, this is where most folks error.

This is what, this post on the Transition Stone is all about and why it might be the most important stone in the progression, especially for novice honers.

So this looks like a result in heavy pressure at the lower grits? Should I just head back to the 2k and work my way back up applying less pressure this time... Or should I just stay on the 8k toil things clear up

Originally Posted by Dafonz6987

So this looks like a result in heavy pressure at the lower grits? Should I just head back to the 2k and work my way back up applying less pressure this time... Or should I just stay on the 8k toil things clear up

Hey that article is exactly what is happening to me... I'll hone and have a great edge then once I get to the higher grits it starts to chip up.... Thanks for writing thay

Yea, polish out the 1k stria with the 2k, then the 2 with the 5. Also joint the edge on the 2k and reset with an X stroke.

Try some side honing, it will quickly remove the deep stria. Side hone until you see even sideways stria and no deep spine to edge stria, lay down a new 2k pattern and re set the edge, then move to a higher grit stone and hone an X pattern. With the 5k side hone to remove the 2k stria, then lay down a new pattern.

You are close, it won't take much to get a good chip free edge.

Well, I'm curious

How did that edge in the pic shave? It looks pretty good to me, but the true test isn't just how it looks, although a really bad edge looks really bad under magnification....usually, but a crappy looking edge sometimes shaves great and a really nice looking edge shaves badly. So I guess for me and a lot of others...its the shave that judges the edge and not always the looks.

Granted, that as you progress in your honing and shaving, visual reference can be really beneficial, but only after mastering your stones and shaving technique.

For now, judge your edges on comfort and then based on that comfort see how the edge looks. Eventually, using the same hones you can establish a visual reference of how good an edge is for your tried and tested stones.

Not saying that appearances are useless, but just that its not everything.

Best Regards,

Howard

Originally Posted by SirStropalot

Well, I'm curious

How did that edge in the pic shave? It looks pretty good to me, but the true test isn't just how it looks, although a really bad edge looks really bad under magnification....usually, but a crappy looking edge sometimes shaves great and a really nice looking edge shaves badly. So I guess for me and a lot of others...its the shave that judges the edge and not always the looks.

Granted, that as you progress in your honing and shaving, visual reference can be really beneficial, but only after mastering your stones and shaving technique.

For now, judge your edges on comfort and then based on that comfort see how the edge looks. Eventually, using the same hones you can establish a visual reference of how good an edge is for your tried and tested stones.

Not saying that appearances are useless, but just that its not everything.

Best Regards,

Howard

It actually wasn't a shave that irritated me in any way and was even able to shave my head... But I've been able to shave with my edges even when I first started... Maybe it's because I'm not picky or because I watched a shit load honing videos prior to purchasing them.... Now if a more experienced person with shaving might have some concerns but for now I've been doing just fine with shaving my own edges...

I think your other pictures were more informative because this one doesn't show if any light is bouncing off the edge or fuzziness .

Maybe also try even less pressure and perform group of light strokes before coming off the 1k so that the scratches left behind aren't so deep.

I'm giving you advise that I need to take