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    Quote Originally Posted by gssixgun View Post
    You have given us much more info since the first post..

    This is also a pet peeve of mine People ask a question then as the full story comes out the answers change, which again make threads travel into the useless


    So lets start at where we are now

    GDGD Razor
    No tape

    That has an issue right there that was not in the first part of this thread ...

    The spines on GDGD's are notoriously not even, nor are the grinds, This is NOT my opinion, this is easily proved with using a Micrometer on either..
    We are assuming that you know of the issues with the Heel and have fixed that

    So now you have to even up the edge, and bevel, using a 1k and pressure, this is edge restoration NOT honing,,

    The bevel needs to be even in height (Think Toothy or Serrated edge) by setting, killing, and resetting, that should accomplish getting the bevel even, then you have to attend to the differences in thickness of the grind and the uneven aspects of the spine, I would try 2 layers or tape to start..
    This should take out the "slack"

    Now working the edge and bevel should get you to a nice even clean starting point, for "Honing"

    Now once you are at that point you can stop all the restoration techniques, and shift to nice light pressure, smooth even strokes to get the bevel clean, even, sharp, and smooth...

    If you are still correcting the bevel, you are not honing, and you should not be going above the 1k yet

    Getting a shaving edge on the GDGD's are not that hard once you get past the restoration stage, and move to the honing stage..

    Keep in mind that the steel simply isn't that good, and that Carbon Popping does happen out of nowhere, and you get a chip out of the edge that is simply the nature of the beast... Which is why these are problematic as to being good "Learning" razors, because you have no idea as a beginner if it is the razor or you that is at fault

    But keep at it, add tape, and see what happens next, that should eliminate many of the issues I am seeing in your pics..


    ps: It is kinda funny as I am working through getting two razors through the same stage
    Sorry about my lack of information I guess I don't know the important pieces to add to threads before I post them... I'm just trying to get the honing right on something cheap before I move on to my custom 8/8 quarter hallow from bluesman 7 my ralf aust 6/8 worked spine... They are expensive pieces of art that I just can't set down on a hone with confidence.... I definitely will take out a lot more varibles on my next thread and include if I used tape, mark a specific position on the razor and take a pic of the same section which was a great suggestion thanks Euclid440... I did grind out the problem with the heel with a dremel and set the bevel before with bluesman at the micromeet... I'll set the bevel, kill my edge and set it again which is really cool idea thanks for that... I'm about to start working on it right now as the kids have gone to sleep and now I have some uninterrupted time to myself...
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    Perfect

    Yeah always the more info you give us, the better we can actually help you

    I really think as soon as you get a solid bevel set it will all come together for ya


    Good luck
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    Yes, it really does help know as much information about what you are working on, (some razors have specific issues), what you have done and how, as much as a specific problem.

    One of the reasons we do not recommend the Gold Dollar and it’s kin, as a razor to learn to hone on, is that they must be repaired, before you can hone them. A new guy usually causes more issues making the repairs, using low grit stones, diamond plates and way too much pressure that cause even more issues down the road.

    This, I am sure is part of your problem, but it can all be fixed. Trust me you are not alone and hundreds of guy have been following this thread and many more will read it in the years to come.

    Photos of the razor always help, often we can see issues that the OP is unaware of.

    Once the bevels are flat and the angle is set, it can be reset quickly, take your time, joint the edge and use lite pressure to polish out 1k stria. Once you set a bevel, do some lite laps to reduce the stria land height so you don’t have to spend as much time on the next stone removing deep stria.

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