Thread: Honing progression with pictures

i just shaved with this razor and it felt like it did fine but how does it look? I know I just recently made a thread with just one picture after the 15k... I have the Shapton Pro series stones let me know if you can see something I can work on... Or if I should have stood one a stone longer and not progessed yet...

AFTER THE 1k

AFTER THE 2k

AFTER THE 5k

AFTER THE 8k

AFTER THE 15k

I can see micro chips along the edge. Maybe try setting the bevel with less pressure ?
I'd lightly drag the edge on the stone and start from scratch.

I think that you needed a little bit more work at the 5k/8k level.

Approximately how many strokes did you do on the 8 and 15 k?

Also, did you tape the spine? If so, at what stages did you change tape?

Your bevel set

Those chips and that rough edge came back to haunt you at the end as you progressed through
The 2k and 5k looked pretty good then the errors from the bevel set became evident as you hit the 8k
That edge should have been "Killed" after the first bevel set at 1k then gently reset after that before progressing farther, to make sure that all the "Tooth" was gone ..

You might need to use a little pressure to set some bevels but you have to make sure that when you do that, to make sure to get rid of all those deep scratches and micro-teeth BEFORE you start climbing the honing ladder...

So first, if you are going to do a comparison, to chart progress, photograph the same spot on the bevel, using the same scope/camera angle each time. Make a reference mark on the bevel and the spine, with a sharpie and align the camera to the same spot each time. Then you can see if you are making progress.

Your edge is chipped with deep 1k stria and the edge never straightens out. If you enlarge the photos, you can easily see the stria leading straight to each chip on the edge.

You are not removing the deep 1k stria.

As said you are probably, not doing enough laps on each stone. Begin each stone with a set of 20 circles to remove the previous stria, then do X laps to lay down a new stria pattern. Do not use a lot of pressure especially on the 1K

Joint the edge and go back to the 5k and see if you can remove all the 1k stria and re-set the bevel, start with 20 circles or side honing.

Do tape the spine, no need to wear the spine needlessly.

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Your bevel set

Those chips and that rough edge came back to haunt you at the end as you progressed through
The 2k and 5k looked pretty good then the errors from the bevel set became evident as you hit the 8k
That edge should have been "Killed" after the first bevel set at 1k then gently reset after that before progressing farther, to make sure that all the "Tooth" was gone ..

You might need to use a little pressure to set some bevels but you have to make sure that when you do that, to make sure to get rid of all those deep scratches and micro-teeth BEFORE you start climbing the honing ladder...

Hi Glen - when you say, "killed" after the first bevel set at 1k, then gently reset before progressing further....do you mean a bevel set, then "kill" the edge on the rim of a glass for instance, and the bevel set again on the 1k?

Thanks.

Originally Posted by Phrank

Hi Glen - when you say, "killed" after the first bevel set at 1k, then gently reset before progressing further....do you mean a bevel set, then "kill" the edge on the rim of a glass for instance, and the bevel set again on the 1k?

Thanks.

Yes - also called Downstroking, Jointing, Joining, and probably a few others

I prefer the corner of the hone, or for a less drastic way a couple of TNTs

Then you would use very light controlled (finishing) strokes on the 1k to GENTLY bring back the edge and leave very shallow 1k Stria that is easily removed as you climb the ladder...


One of the biggest mistakes (Pet Peeve of mine) we make when explaining honing is the failure to differentiate between Edge Restoration and Honing..
I think we confuse so many new honers with that

Edit:

Lets also realize that we have little perspective as to any other issues with the razor in this thread

We can't really tell the bevel size nor can we see the spine, so we are simply answering the issues from the pics that we can see...

Thanks Glen - sitting here feeling blue - at the driver exam centre now - my son is doing his learners permit - they grow up so quickly.

So - kill the edge then lightly bring the edge back on the 1k....will do.