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    So I recently purchased the dovo micarta ice tempered... Beautiful blade and I was curious to look at it under the scope with the factory edge and I came across this... Pic below... Now I have no idea what it is or how it got there but it almost looks like the steel is bent like folding... I would say something hit it but u would think that would be one fold... I honed her and its gone now but I had to take a picture and share with you guys
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    Got to love those factory "shave ready" edges.
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    buffer grabbed at that point?

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    That is why I don't use that much magnification, I'd see too many things that would bother me. Out of curiosity how were the shaves just before you noticed this under magnification. I mean did the quality of the shave make you go checking the edge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobH View Post
    That is why I don't use that much magnification, I'd see too many things that would bother me. Out of curiosity how were the shaves just before you noticed this under magnification. I mean did the quality of the shave make you go checking the edge?

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    If it shaves to your expectations then I would not get alarmed. If not, bevel setting is the answer.

    Are there other spots like the one shown?
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    It’s a chip, yea, it hit something.

    Just because you don’t see it, does not make it go away. Something that big you will feel and probably cut you, its half the width of the bevel.

    And that’s not a factory edge, note the diagonal stria on the bevel. It’s been stropped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Euclid440 View Post
    It’s a chip, yea, it hit something.

    Just because you don’t see it, does not make it go away. Something that big you will feel and probably cut you, its half the width of the bevel.

    And that’s not a factory edge, note the diagonal stria on the bevel. It’s been stropped.
    I wasn't inferring that because you don't see it that it goes away but it just may not bother you when you shave. It is about 1/3 the bevel and even on a small bevel might be visible with the naked eye and a 20x hand loupe for sure. I was curious what prompted the OP to check the blade under magnification. Was it because of poor shave quality or was it just to see whats what?

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    I just don’t get the anti magnification guys, don’t know if your one of them and not beating you up, but we hear that all the time and new guys believe it.

    The “What, I can’t see won’t hurt me” crowd, It’s not about the magnification it is about interpreting what you see, and determining the cause and the solution. Too much knowledge is never a bad thing.
    That’s a big chip no matter how you measure it…

    Most of the new guy,”I have a problem with my edge” post, can easily be solved, by looking at the edge with magnification. They will find a serrated edge, figuring out how that happened is the first step in fixing it. Edges don’t fall apart, on their own.

    Small chips turn into large chips, are uncomfortable and more importantly are early warning sign of a problem, often proper stropping or a light touch up can fix them. Or they are indicators of a technique issue.

    It kills me that new guys will spend hundreds of dollars on stones and not spend two bucks on good lighted magnification.

    The OP is a new honer, looking to learn, telling him don’t worry about it is not the right answer. End of rant… carry on…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euclid440 View Post
    I just don’t get the anti magnification guys, don’t know if your one of them and not beating you up, but we hear that all the time and new guys believe it.

    The “What, I can’t see won’t hurt me” crowd, It’s not about the magnification it is about interpreting what you see, and determining the cause and the solution. Too much knowledge is never a bad thing.
    That’s a big chip no matter how you measure it…

    Most of the new guy,”I have a problem with my edge” post, can easily be solved, by looking at the edge with magnification. They will find a serrated edge, figuring out how that happened is the first step in fixing it. Edges don’t fall apart, on their own.

    Small chips turn into large chips, are uncomfortable and more importantly are early warning sign of a problem, often proper stropping or a light touch up can fix them. Or they are indicators of a technique issue.

    It kills me that new guys will spend hundreds of dollars on stones and not spend two bucks on good lighted magnification.

    The OP is a new honer, looking to learn, telling him don’t worry about it is not the right answer. End of rant… carry on…
    Again, I most emphatically did not tell him to not worry about it. Can you get that! Yes, I use a hand loupe and so far so good. Any magnification is not going to do you much good if you don't know what you are looking at for sure. Posting a photo of the edge is a great idea too, no doubt of that either. Yes, the edge has likely been dinged. I am still curious as to what prompted the OP to take a closer look at the edge in the first place. Was it shaving badly or not, did the blade leave marks on the strop from the ding? That sort of thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dafonz6987 View Post
    I was curious to look at it under the scope with the factory edge and I came across this...
    Here is the answer to the question of why he looked at the edge.

    Curiosity...

    It causes and solves a lot of problems.

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