Quote Originally Posted by Pithor View Post
I know this was directed at Phrank, but I'll throw in a tidbit anyway.

If you "kill" the edge on glass (say a beer bottle), it would take only a minimal amount of strokes on a 12,000 grit stone to get your edge back, as this folds the edge rather than abrade it.
And folding the edge weakens the steel. This is one of the many reasons why I am not a fan of killing/joining/jointing an edge.