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    Default Charnley Forest hone?

    I have been offered for sale a Charnley Forest hone. Should be English or Scottish.
    Can anyone tell me more about these hones?

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    English and from Charnwood forest or thereabouts afaik in Leicestershire. There are/where a number of quarries in the area, iirc (I think the geology of the area has been well studied).
    As far as I know they are of a similar makeup to arkansas.

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    I found this:
    All my father's men used the "Charnley Forest", a natural British stone
    resembling slate, and I have vivid memories of the incessant rubbing that
    was necessary before a keen edge on the tool could be obtained on them.
    They varied slightly in quality, but even the very best were dreadfully
    slow; and all demanded an abnormal amount of labour, to lighten which we
    sometimes applied fine emery powder to the surface. This quickened the
    process, but left a raw and unsatisfactory edge to the tool. Recourse to
    the grindstone was had [sic] immediately the sharpening bevel became wide.
    In the year 1889 the "Washita," an imported stone, appeared on the English
    market, and was hailed with delight by all woodworkers , who straightway
    discarded their "Charnley Forests" for ever.
    Yikes. If a soft Arkansas seems wondrously fast next to this thing, I dunno...

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    There are few post about this stone on B&B forum.

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    I've got two of them. Mine are large, long and slow cutting. One slower than the other. I paid a UK vendor $70.00 USD for one shipped and got the other in a trade. They are attractive hones glued to hardwood with a matching cover. All I have seen were cased the same as my two. I have finished a razor or two on them. If you like rocks and want some variety it is cool to have. If you want an efficient razor hone that will not require a lot of laps I would look elsewhere.
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    Yeah, and let me have it instead .

    I have seen one of Sham's in person, and it was pretty impressive: gave a great edge, very pretty stone.

    True, not the fastest, but sometimes it's about the journey, not how fast you get to the destination.

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    Two of them just arrived today. I will have to clean and them and pick one which I will like more. Unfortunately they did not arrive with boxes just bases. Will think if I bother to make lids to them. I have to say $70 sounds like a steal comparing with what I have at present two of mine and one bought for friend of mine.

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    Yes it was a steal in retrospect. They are lovely looking hones for those of us who can find an old slab of rock beautiful. The other I got in the trade was valued at more than twice that amount. Please post photos when you can. Here are my two.
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    As I promissed I will. Firstly I want to get rid of gunk which covers them. Possibly even take them out of woden basis. One of them will need a lot of laping as it is not staight. Any sugestion how to speed it up? I do have a piece of granite and sandpapers, but what I have found out so far it is hard stone and traditional lapping will take ages.

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    The silicon carbide powder method that Smythe pointed me towards, might be the better option for lapping.

    I'm turning a bit green here. Do the hones stain or is that just plain jealousy?

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