Thread: Challenge accepted

Originally Posted by prodigy

Do a YouTube search for speed test kiita #29. I have that stone as well as a slightly larger one.

I still see 1k scratches there. Maybe needed more strokes

Also that honing method is a great way to hone a frown into a blade, especially with the finger on the spine like that. Too easy to apply excess localised pressure that way.

Tc, I even decided to pull out "the raven" just for you. I don't normally use it, even for my special razors. This razor is a lightsaber now! If you don't like this edge, then I don't think there's a jnat in the world you'll like!

Originally Posted by onimaru55

I still see 1k scratches there. Maybe needed more strokes

Also that honing method is a great way to hone a frown into a blade, especially with the finger on the spine like that. Too easy to apply excess localised pressure that way.

I didn't share the video to criticize his honing, just commenting on the speed of the hone. I think he even says in his video that he's not trying to remove every scratch mark, just trying to see the minimum number of strokes to get the edge clean enough to shave with. You failed to make any comment on the speed, so I'm assuming you agree that it is a fast stone?

Kyle I have no doubt it,ll be a great edge, I,m hoping it will be something to Wow me so I can have that ultimate shave, And yes that blade will take an edge.. Jamie put me on that azor, he was right. Now as for the Raven, I,m wanting one, but my Kanayama is really nice too,,

Rez I thought about that after I started getting challenges, hummmm but no , it's not my intention, I just truly believe that a 12k naniwa in the right hands produces a finished edge that rivals all the "majic" stones, from all the guys who have honed for me, it has been a pleasure with some of the different stones, just not anything that has convinced me. I,m truly hoping Kyle and Steve show me that in their hands it does make a difference. Now I may have been unfair in that the guy who hones for me can put on a laser edge with Brick, and my stropping skills are pretty good, but now I,m like a kid in a candy store looking forward to these blades. Maybe I need to get OZ involved and Stefan, too, that way I,ll be done with honing for a couple of years! Tc

Originally Posted by prodigy

I didn't share the video to criticize his honing, just commenting on the speed of the hone. I think he even says in his video that he's not trying to remove every scratch mark, just trying to see the minimum number of strokes to get the edge clean enough to shave with. You failed to make any comment on the speed, so I'm assuming you agree that it is a fast stone?

Sure , no question on the speed & he may have his honing down so that he can hone that way but newbs trying to replicate will do damage so I had to comment.

Originally Posted by onimaru55

Sure , no question on the speed & he may have his honing down so that he can hone that way but newbs trying to replicate will do damage so I had to comment.

On the same token a newb might read this thread and go out and spend a ton of money on a jnat thinking it will be the best edge and you know the outcome.

Then again a newb might go out and get a synthetic and ruin his blade from the stone cutting so fast or get a coticule and never get a great edge or get an Arkansas and put too much pressure on it because it's too slow. The possibilities are endless. One newb buys a cheap Chinese razor because that's all he can afford and gets a great edge put on it which hooks him into the hobby. Another, believing that vintage is the best way to go buys one that has more issues than Rolling Stones magazine and gives up after a miserable experience. Then yet another buys a cheap Chinese razor and can't get an edge on it and after shaving with a dull edge gives up and assumes all razors are like that. One person is motivated by shaving and sends his razor out to be honed. Another person loves the honing aspect and wouldn't last a month in this hobby if he couldn't hone his own razor. I am more and more convinced that general advice for a newb coupled with a lot of support and encouragement is more helpful than "do this, don't do that" advice.

I bought way too much stuff way to early in this hobby/lifestyle and none of it really got me better shaves, because I switched it up too fast. My new advice is take it slow, all that stuff will still be there to buy tomorrow and it will still take the same amount of time to learn to use it correctly. I still wonder how much time I spend chasing my tail even now. There are many paths to the prefect edge and the perfect shave, but they are best traveled one at a time.

Originally Posted by RezDog

I bought way too much stuff way to early in this hobby/lifestyle and none of it really got me better shaves, because I switched it up too fast. My new advice is take it slow, all that stuff will still be there to buy tomorrow and it will still take the same amount of time to learn to use it correctly. I still wonder how much time I spend chasing my tail even now. There are many paths to the prefect edge and the perfect shave, but they are best traveled one at a time.

Same exact path I took early on, and the same result. If you include barber hones, at one time I had 60 hones. Sold most of them, and now only have one barber hone, and 22 others between natural and synthetic ....... like any normal person .........