Thread: Bevel setting?

I understand there are many test out there for bevel setting. Would majority of you agree that when a bevel is set or close to being set it SHOULD cut arm hair? Thanks gents

If the razor won't cut arm hair, it's nowhere close to being set. It should shave hair off of the 1k. If you've honed until both sides of the blade have formed a single edge, the razor will be sharp enough to shave your face, but it will not be comfortable until you've refined the edge with higher grit stones.

Originally Posted by Wayne1963

If the razor won't cut arm hair, it's nowhere close to being set. It should shave hair off of the 1k. If you've honed until both sides of the blade have formed a single edge, the razor will be sharp enough to shave your face, but it will not be comfortable until you've refined the edge with higher grit stones.

Got it! That is what I was thinking should be the case. I have a Shapton glass 1k and a razor with 62hrc rating and I am having a heck of a time getting the bevel to that point. The 1k gets clogged or smooths out pretty fast and stops removing metal. Do I just keep lapping it for fresh grit until it shaves arm hair? Maybe a common sense answer but I want to make sure!

A loupe changed my honing immensely. You can actually look almost straight don on the edge and see if the bevel is complete. The phrase bevel set can be defined as the two planes meeting to forma perfect V for the entire length. The two sides must come to a perfect and uniform point or there is not really any point in going further.

Ditto what RezDog said about getting a loupe. I have a nice cheap 60x I got off amazon and it works great

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Yes, I would stay on your bevel setter till the blade effortlessly cuts arm hair along the entire length of the blade and confirm with a loupe that the bevel is set. Doing some light strokes past that point won't hurt it either. Sort of insurance incase you missed something with the arm hair and loupe tests. Keeps you from rushing things and going up the hones too early.

Bob

Originally Posted by RezDog

A loupe changed my honing immensely. You can actually look almost straight don on the edge and see if the bevel is complete. The phrase bevel set can be defined as the two planes meeting to forma perfect V for the entire length. The two sides must come to a perfect and uniform point or there is not really any point in going further.

On every factory honed razor I have received I have tried the reflection test and found there is a light reflection on all my razors edges, finished edges to be exact. Even a factory feather SE super pro edge has a faint reflection, well more like a white line. Maybe my phones LED light is too bright for this test. My 60X loupe is almost dead.

Originally Posted by BobH

Yes, I would stay on your bevel setter till the blade effortlessly cuts arm hair along the entire length of the blade and confirm with a loupe that the bevel is set. Doing some light strokes past that point won't hurt it either. Sort of insurance incase you missed something with the arm hair and loupe tests. Keeps you from rushing things and going up the hones too early.

Bob

I have never had a 1k shave arm hair lol. I need to go back to the drawing board...

pretty sure dshaves has a loupe.

Originally Posted by dshaves

Hello gents, I have three modern razors that I have honed up to 12k and examined with my led 60X loop and noticed holes some shallow and some deep throughout the blades bevel. I am OCD about wiping the razor down in between each pass, when done shaving I strop on nylon to clean the edge, oil and store in a dry location. I don't have any water spots nor rust throughout the whole razor. So how could the bevel develop holes in the steel without rust like devils spit? What might be some other possibilities? I don't know anything about steel production but could there have been bubbles/air pockets develop while hardening?

Also they don't produce their own steel.

I will not mention the manufacturer because they are working with me I am just looking for additional possibilities while we figure this out.

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Originally Posted by dshaves

I have never had a 1k shave arm hair lol. I need to go back to the drawing board...

Hmmmmm Not always

I thought it was foolproof until the Ashville NC meet in 2009 sitting around the table passing a razor and BAM !!! one out of the 8 or so guys sitting there couldn't get it to cut arm hair at any grit level

Since then during all the meets I have attended there is always somebody that can't get one of the bevel set tests to work for them

Use all the tests until you have an ABSOLUTE sure fire goto method that always works for you, not what we tell you should work