Thread: new razor will not hone

Originally Posted by Utopian

OK, since you brought it up, then I will leave it to you to define the word "excessive" in relation to honing.

Can we also get someone to describe the flavour of an orange too ☺

Originally Posted by Utopian

OK, since you brought it up, then I will leave it to you to define the word "excessive" in relation to honing.

Hmm, I thought I already had done. Excessive pressure would be that amount which would cause a hollow ground or otherwise razor to flex in such a manner that most or all of the steel is being removed way behind the actual edge, and cause the apex to no longer touch the hone. This should be fairly easy to check with a Sharpie and a loupe.

Originally Posted by AcesandEights

I believe this is a moot point, since the OP hasn't replied for 40 posts. Plus, 90% of the replies are redundant to the 1st 1/2 dozen replies (which 'may' be why he hasn't returned.)

This is what happens all the time. A newbe posts about his problems, he gets some sound advice and then the advice itsesf is being discussed in detail and we start to disagree on certain details. Leaving the newbe utterly confused and thinking honing is like rocket science.

I think it would be much better if a newbe is told to read and digest the information in the library section of this forum and take it from there. The OP of this thread had already been doing his homework so for him that would not have been helpful.
Another policy might be that a moderator takes a newbe with questions under his wings.

Its good to talk

Saw on another thread that he has moved on to a Feather.

Originally Posted by Kees

This is what happens all the time. A newbe posts about his problems, he gets some sound advice and then the advice itsesf is being discussed in detail and we start to disagree on certain details. Leaving the newbe utterly confused and thinking honing is like rocket science.

I think it would be much better if a newbe is told to read and digest the information in the library section of this forum and take it from there. The OP of this thread had already been doing his homework so for him that would not have been helpful.
Another policy might be that a moderator takes a newbe with questions under his wings.

In all fairness, he (OP) states that he tried all the "techniques out there" . I don't see how he achieved what he did, had he spent several hours in the library. I suspect he spent some time researching , somewhere, then got engulfed by a method that took him down the wrong path.

We have mentors that do exactly what you suggested moderators do.

To this day, I still don't think he took up the offer to have his razor worked on.

Would like to join the others that have congradulated you on having the spunk to buy razors and set out to hone and use them.
It is what we are all trying to do - and part of the fun is that the learning never stops.
You may have underestimated how delicate the undertaking of honing is.
If you set out on your own to learn to change a transmission, grill a steak, or carve a turkey - I am certain you would have ended up being successful.
Unfortunately, learning to hone a razor is more like teaching yourself how to do open heart surgery.
Find a someone to give you some hands-on teaching and you will do very well.

Boy, some of you guys really flogged this poor guy. I'd probably have deleted my account and moved on from here. Which I have done on an other site when I was new. It bothers me to see how many continuous floggings his methods got him instead of gentle guidance. It was like some of you were enjoying it..... The razors can be saved, he DOES NOT need to send them off to be fixed, he will be able to understand how to do that himself in the future, but, they will need to be marked somehow because they will always need tape in the future. I kinda like the idea of someone near him being able to help him personally with understanding sharpening razors. If you want to flog on me now thats ok, but leave him alone.

Thanks

Originally Posted by Aerdvaark

Boy, some of you guys really flogged this poor guy. I'd probably have deleted my account and moved on from here. Which I have done on an other site when I was new. It bothers me to see how many continuous floggings his methods got him instead of gentle guidance. It was like some of you were enjoying it..... The razors can be saved, he DOES NOT need to send them off to be fixed, he will be able to understand how to do that himself in the future, but, they will need to be marked somehow because they will always need tape in the future. I kinda like the idea of someone near him being able to help him personally with understanding sharpening razors. If you want to flog on me now thats ok, but leave him alone.

Thanks

I agree. Being to 'new' to this forum and kinda new to SR, I can see where some die hard members get carried away with thier reply's. But, as in life, one needs to be Thick Skinned or get eaten by the wolves.

Some members need to understand that $, especially a $100 or so, is not the 'end of the world' if lost. Heck, I (as have most) wasted more on a lot dumber ((and less educating)) things. However, I do understand there are those that take things serious. As a gunsmith for, echem...a 'few' years, I have seen far more 'valuable' firearms come thru my shop that has had a backyard dremel 'smith "fix" it. But, in the end one has to realize, chances are...that was not the ONLY one the manufacturer made. And the current owner has to live with the decisions he made. Which, in turn, becomes another 'lore/legend' when passed down thru the years.

Problem is, with these forums, 90% have the same thought...yet won't let one or two say it then let it go. Then there are those who 'scalp' the 'norm's' thoughts and re-post the same darn thing. (When I reality, they too have done the same thing, but were too afraid to say it out loud)

Being 'new', I'm sure I'll catch flak...but hey...I'm a BiG BoY.

Nope no flak

Just going to leave this here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx2Sps9aMcY