Thread: Tapered toe honing

Originally Posted by cudarunner

Why the 'Other Razor'? Why not this one? After all 'this razor' is the one you asked questions about. Just wondering

I know you think I am crazy but this razor shaves great other than the toe. For all the effort I will try it on this one and my other one.

Originally Posted by Chet

Please let me know your thoughts so the next time I might take a different approach!

For razors with problems like uneven hone wear from a variety of reasons using at least a single layer of tape and learning the strokes needed to compensate for the razors deficiencies is a better way to go. I say at lest one layer of tape but you might need more to compensate for excess hone wear in order to restore the blades geometry. By geometry I mean the correct spine width to blade width in order that you get in the ballpark of a correct bevel angle. IIRC that is about a 17 degree bevel angle.

By grinding the spine flat on both sides you destroy the geometry of the razor and wind up with a spine too narrow for the blade width. That in turn crates a wider bevel than is necessary at the same time changing the bevel angle making it out of spec. Even though a razor honed that way will likely shave the edge may not be comfortable or last too long as there is less meat behind the edge than there normally should be.

Add to that, nobody who knows straight razors would ever likely purchase one in that condition. I just think it is a loose, loose method of honing.

Bob

^^^^^ Well said Bob

Originally Posted by gssixgun

^^^^^ Well said Bob

Thank you. I took me awhile after seeing the hone wear to calm down enough to reply. Man I hate seeing that.

Bob

It appears as though we are running in circles. http://straightrazorpalace.com/honin...le-honing.html

Wow, that was a nice looking razor......

Chet have you taken the time to figure out what you current spine thickness and blade width comes to in terms of degrees? You may need to add more than one layer or tape to get this razor to an angle that will hold an edge for any amount of time.

On one's said it so I will throw it out there. First check the edge. If its straight but the bevel or spine have uneven wear it it usually a grinding or geometry issue but as long as the edge is straight and the bevels meet it is cosmetic and not anything that would affect honing or shaving.

Grinding metal away is just a waste of time and metal and adds to the geometry being out. As said learning the rolling x will help you get the entire edge. Also helps making it all even but again that only makes it look better not shave better.

Originally Posted by sqzbxr

It appears as though we are running in circles. http://straightrazorpalace.com/honin...le-honing.html

Yep I love circles. I guess you don't like nascar

Fixing a spine is useful if there are severe grind issues that prevent sections of the bevels to contact the stone. Those situations are not very common. Anytime a decision is made to fix the spine, minimal work should be done. One would not want to remove more than is needed to proceed with tape to set the bevel. As a rule of thumb, unless you hone with no tape, always start with tape and see what happens. From there you can determine if you should contimue with one layer, add a second, work on the spine a little and then add tape etc. If you have problems with what type of stroke to use, just ask here and you'll get great advise,