Thread: How do you tell if you have a frown

If you insist on doing the corrective work yourself then be aware that the 1/4 hones are not good for this. They are to short.
Use instead a sheet of wet/dry sandpaper, 500 grit (use it wet), and lay it on a flat piece of tile/glass/etc.
The other major note is to not use a 90 degree angle when bread knifeing/shaping but use instead a 30-45 degree angle.
You will have much less work to do on the next grit.

Hope this helps,

Originally Posted by Kevinwine85

I'd like to fix it, I have a quarter set of nortons flattening stone, 220, 1k, 4k, 8k, how should I fix it and know it's fixed

If you have not used them yet, I suggest that you try to return them. They were misrepresented when they were sold to you.

This is from the website...
Quarter 1.5" x 4" Norton- $60

Even though the hones are smaller than a full size hone, they are 50% larger than the average barbers hone. You will have no problem honing straight razors.Even though short X passes are possible, you will probably use more circular motions than you would with a larger surface hone.

This is just plain NOT true. Math makes it clear.
Area of a quarter Norton = 1.5 x 4 = 6 square inches.

An average barber hone is the size of a Swaty, which is 2 by 5. I own a lot of barber hones and this is by far the most common size.

Area of an average barber hone = 2 x 5 = 10 square inches.

Now, is 6 50% larger than 10???? (Hint: No it is not.)

If the claim were true, then the average size of a barber hone would be 4 square inches, as 6 is 50% bigger than 4.

If the average barber hone were in fact that size, then here are the potential sizes of what is being claimed to be an average barber hone.
1 x 4
1.5 x 2.7
2 x 2
NONE of these are an average sized barber hone.

Don't buy into this lie.

Friends do NOT let friends buy quarter Norton hones!

@Utopian -- Thanks for alerting the OP to the output from your highly tuned crap detector.

Where would I find that stone at

What stone?

My suggestion? Buy a True Hard/Translucent/Black Arkansas stone and use the quarter Nortons as Synthetic Nagura stones.

Edit: Respectably sized Arkansas* 6 x 2 minimum, 6 x 3 preferred, 8 x 3 optimal

Here is something that will take out a frown quick if you don't want to try the wet/dry sandpaper

https://www.woodcraft.com/products/d...th-plastic-box

Ok, another ?, I'm on a budget, what stones would be all I would need

Originally Posted by Kevinwine85

Ok, another ?, I'm on a budget, what stones would be all I would need

Define budget
This is what I got 9 years ago and has honed at least 500 razors and still going strong
https://www.woodcraft.com/products/n...702d61c10004f1

You could maybe do an full Ark set after the bevel setting hone.

My main set includes a diamond hone very similar to the one in the link, a King 1.2k, Norton 4k/8k and a natural Chinese 12k (PHIG), this all probably cost $200 +/-. Realize that I do lots of antique store/flea mkt razors that almost all need full bevel sets. If you are just doing refreshes, the last two would be enough

The cheapest reputable hone that I know of for setting a bevel is the king 1000. Slow, but reliable. The full size norton 4/8 combo hone is all else you need. Not sure of pricing in the US, but doubt it would run much more than $100.

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