Thread: Dusted off the the naniwa 12k

Originally Posted by Airportcopper

Add some dishwashing soap on the very last strokes.. it will make a difference

I'm actually struggling to get a good lasting edge with my 12k, even with just 10 light strokes. From what i can tell with my loupe i must still be over honing or something. got any tips?

Originally Posted by tintin

I'm actually struggling to get a good lasting edge with my 12k, even with just 10 light strokes. From what i can tell with my loupe i must still be over honing or something. got any tips?

Overhoning is over-blamed for bad edges. Try more strokes, not less. Make sure everything is 100% up to that point- bevel set perfectly and you should be able to shave off the 8k. Then do 20-30 laps with no pressure. Or more.

Don’t be afraid of it. You can’t destroy a good edge with a few extra laps on a 12k. If it was that unforgiving it wouldn’t be a very good stone at all!

That's what has me so stumped (the fact that everyone say how great and easy a stone it it) i've been shaving off the 8k for years and finally broke down and got the 12. It was after getting my Riga- Razor which was finished by the maker with a Naniwa Gouken 12k, But even with that the first shave was amazing and the second not so much. Always seem grabby and not as smooth.Been chasing that edge for months now. Not happy with my edges at all now.

Ive been kicking around the idea of dishsoap for the last laps on the 12k. Think i might give it a go next time. Thanks for bringing it up. My edges are getting much better now and the 12k is really starting to work for me.

Sorry i cant help on why your edge dont last very long. I dont think its the stone.

Originally Posted by tintin

\ It was after getting my Riga- Razor which was finished by the maker with a Naniwa Gouken 12k, But even with that the first shave was amazing and the second not so much. Always seem grabby and not as smooth.Been chasing that edge for months now.

Are you having the same issue with other razors? If not, could it be the razor steel? I am curious as I have been seriously considering a Riga. I have not heard any other commentary regarding dissatisfaction with a Riga...

Originally Posted by Gasman

Ive been kicking around the idea of dishsoap for the last laps on the 12k.

Naniwa recommends not using soap on their hones, however there was a professional sharpener [ozark edger] at Howard Clark's meet that used Dawn daily to clean up his hones with no problems. Several people were taken back when he put the Dawn on.

Good to know. Thanks for the heads up. Was just thinking of something to help get the most out of the stone. Sure dont want to go with oil.

Originally Posted by Robini

Are you having the same issue with other razors? If not, could it be the razor steel? I am curious as I have been seriously considering a Riga. I have not heard any other commentary regarding dissatisfaction with a Riga...

I've been having the same issue with all the razors i've honed with a 12k. i'm still very pleased with the Riga and would highly recommend them.

Originally Posted by tintin

That's what has me so stumped (the fact that everyone say how great and easy a stone it it) i've been shaving off the 8k for years and finally broke down and got the 12. It was after getting my Riga- Razor which was finished by the maker with a Naniwa Gouken 12k, But even with that the first shave was amazing and the second not so much. Always seem grabby and not as smooth.Been chasing that edge for months now. Not happy with my edges at all now.

Try introducing a misty slurry into your 12k finishing

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Try introducing a misty slurry into your 12k finishing

can i use my course DMT? Do you agree with the idea that I shouldn't be afraid to use more strokes?