Thread: Playing with a Jnat

Ive always used linen before leather so this would feel odd going without. Its worth a try. Its all learning and fun so anything different is worth trying a couple times.

Originally Posted by Bill31521

I don't like the kanayama cloth! Lol. I have a Scrupleworks flax strop (clean) that does add a little more pepper. I tried more than a few vintage waxed linen. And they were all pasted with who knows what. So I don't bother anymore with those.

If you've ever read the instructions for breaking in Kanayama linen it's a helluva process but they can be softened.
I short circuited the drama on mine my giving it a good workout with a file card.

Today i tried a couple misty slurrys lightly to try and bring up a keenner edge. Nope. It shaves but not what im wanting. Still got a couple more ideas and plans to try.

Finally, progress!

I found with this stone i really have to work it. I've been doing less laps lately as I've read, watched vids and have been told thats hundreds of of laps are not really needed. I brought up a slurry with my dmt and worked that slurry for 70+ laps. Just working the slurry. Not deluting. Just keeping it wet. I cleaned it off and did this 3 times. Test shave was a keen and comfortable edge.
I also did a matching blade with 2 sets of the slurry but finished with 50 laps on clear water. Test shave was keen but NOT comfortable. A little harsh.

So, IMO more laps on the slurry are needed with this stone. I might have gotten away with less slurry sessions. And clear water makes for keen but no comfort. Next test is to do it on 2 more razors to see if I can make the same outcome. BTW, I started with a 12k edge and used no Nagura. Only slurry from the stone.

Pay attention to feedback. That sticky sensation. Once you learn that from your stone you will know when to stop by feel.

Originally Posted by Gasman

Finally, progress!

I found with this stone i really have to work it. I've been doing less laps lately as I've read, watched vids and have been told thats hundreds of of laps are not really needed. I brought up a slurry with my dmt and worked that slurry for 70+ laps. Just working the slurry. Not deluting. Just keeping it wet. I cleaned it off and did this 3 times. Test shave was a keen and comfortable edge.
I also did a matching blade with 2 sets of the slurry but finished with 50 laps on clear water. Test shave was keen but NOT comfortable. A little harsh.

So, IMO more laps on the slurry are needed with this stone. I might have gotten away with less slurry sessions. And clear water makes for keen but no comfort. Next test is to do it on 2 more razors to see if I can make the same outcome. BTW, I started with a 12k edge and used no Nagura. Only slurry from the stone.

Nice..
It sounds like your stone is slow, that is why I suggested adding DMT slurry to your Nagura slurries.. If I were you I would forget about just water strokes..
Good luck

People talk about the sticky feeling but I never find it. I have noticed the blade sticking a little when I lift it from the stone, but as seen on vids, a blade slowing down and sticking I've never found. On any stone! I'm guessing it because I use tape, but I don't really know.

Is the stone being slow? Yep, this must be it. I thought it was soft and that's why I could not get an edge. But I was guessing and really had no clue.
After dinner tonight I'm going to give a couple more razors the same treatment and see how that turns out. I might just keep going and going on one of them to see if I ever find the sticking feeling. Can't hurt. Not like I don't have plenty of razors to play with. LOL.

Thanks for the replies gentlemen. I'm feeling a little better about this rock. Really didn't want to buy another, but I was thinking really hard about it.

Jerry-When you get the "sticky feeling" you will know it-no guesswork needed. I would get it off of the couple of Shobudani J-Nats I used to have when I was done. I even get it at the end stage on my SB Arkie, at least with water or soapy water. Your edge will start squeaking and skipping on the hone, even feeling like it wants to dig in-definitely time to quit and strop at that point!

Thanks, Aaron. I will hone until I find it. Its got to come sooner or later. Or I will hone that edge down to a stub of a razor.

IT AINT STICKING!

1200+ laps now and no sign of sticking or skipping. It ain't happening!


I don't know if it's possible to get more uniform than this. But I'm done on this one. Shave test is the only thing left. But it never felt like it wanted to stick.