Thread: Norton roughness, chips, edge shredding, micro chipping

Someone that is competent in statistics could let us know how many people would have to vote to give us a 95% confidence rating.

Any one out there????

Originally Posted by randydance062449

Someone that is competent in statistics could let us know how many people would have to vote to give us a 95% confidence rating.

Any one out there????

I'm not expert on statistics, but I do remember the basics....
The answer is 400 = (1/0.05)^2

I suspect Gugi is on his way to save the day!

Originally Posted by JMS

I suspect Gugi is on his way to save the day!

Are you reading my mind? I must be John Malkovich....
And I typed twice as fast than you! Unbelievable..... Almost made up for my lost posts too... I'm on my way to buy my lottery ticket....
I'm ritch b___ !

There is a thread right now in the "Shaving" forum called "Shave at night?" asking for people's opinions on that subject.

Using the methodology introduced by Forzato's poll, we can conclude that 100% of straight shavers shave at night.

Unless maybe – just maybe – some of the guys who shave in the morning are sorta skimming past a thread called "Shave at night?" without really bothering to read or comment.

I don't believe 25% of Nortons are defective in their manufacture. But I do believe 100% of newbies are defective in their knowledge and experience.

And I'm saying this as a person whose newbiedom lasted, like, a year and then some.

OK, ok... easy fellas.

Nobody is stating that this will be a statistically accurate endeavor... just a way to get a feel for how many of our members have had a significant problem with embedded grit in the venerable Norton waterstone.

Originally Posted by dylandog

Yes, grit seems to more easily embed itself in a Norton than in say a coticule. But once diagnosed the problem is very easily solved.

Unless you have a new insight to share, I'm afraid we'll have to agree to disagree on that one.

But thanks for the feedback.

Forzato, as I've said several times, I gather you do have a truly defective stone, and I hope Norton replaces it.

What I'm criticizing here is the way you're building to these larger conclusions about the prevalence of this defect. Most of those responding to your poll are describing problems they had as newbies and then successfully conquered with everyone's help. It was a question of learning to know their tool well, kinks and all, and then use it properly. They're not talking about a defect like the one your Norton apparently has, and yet you're tallying them up as if they were, and coming away with this crazy "1-in-4"-Nortons-is-a-botch statistic, and then writing a review in the review forum telling newbies the Norton "isn't recommended" because of the prevalence of manufacturer's defects.

The common problem described here, which I experienced myself as a newb, is easily solved. Yours sounds like it will not be. I hope you get a new Norton. And I look forward to your further experiments with back-honing on 1500 grit followed by Kitayama finish. No sarcasm here at all – – it sounds intriguing.

Yes - I could understand how the 'Kitayama-post-1500-grit-backhone' technique seems counterintuitive, and that it seems like it wouldn't likely work.

It was created by need more than anything else.

It works.

I think the Norton is one of the easiest hones for a Noob to learn on. I would highly recommend it. I have had no problems