Thread: 1000 grit stone

I'm looking for a 1000 grit stone for bevel setting.

1. Any opinions of the King 1000 grit you can get at Woodcraft?

2. Norton 1000?

3. Shapton 1000?

The Shapton actually isn't too expensive at this grit. But can it be lapped on a DMT 325?

In the interest of expanding your options, adding to stray thoughts that keep you up at night how 'bout the beautiful Bester: #1000 grit Super Ceramic Water Stone - Bester - The Japan Woodworker Catalog
*(provided as the first link from google, i have no interest in promoting this company)

or the celestial Naniwa: Japanese Whetstone Sharpening Stone, 1000 grit - Knife Sharpeners - PSS Enterprises - PaulsFinest.com *(see above)

I'm still lapping away at the Pro Series Shaptons:
Amazon.com: #1000 Grit Ceramic (Orange) Professional Series Water Stone - Shapton: Home Improvement

The 1000 is awesome, I bet the glass bottoms are too, but they are only 5mm thick.

Low grit King stones are ok. They tend to make a lot of mud with little gray in the slurry compared to ceramics. These were my first waterstones and sure worked better than what I was using before. They have their place.

Is this a direct link: http://japan-tool.com/
I have a little itch to try one of these Sigma

Variety is the spice of life.

Originally Posted by kevint

Variety is the spice of life.

My growing variety of hones is the spice of my wife's mounting criticisms of my sanity.

what cha gonna do?

they get used to it eventually

The Bester and Shapton hones get good reviews from very respectable sources.

I'd vote for the DMT 8E, if you are open to still other suggestions. Diamonds make quick work of whatever's thrown at 'em and don't require any prep/maintenance, but can seem a little harsh if you're used to slower hones.

Yes, the Shaptons can be lapped with the DMT 8C.

I am considering the DMT 1000 grit (or close to 1000 grit). I"ve just heard from some very experieinced people that the DMTs are just hell on the blade [and of course many very experienced honers swear by it, so there you go]. My DMT 325 was certainly hell on my escher when I tried to lap it so I'm a little worried about using the 1,000 grit one on steel. But the low maintenance is certainly appealing.

When I said "harsh" I meant that the feeling while honing is harsh compared to non-diamond hones, not so much that the DMTs are harsh on blades.

I mean, if you have to remove X amount of material to set a bevel, what difference does it make if you remove it with 10 passes on a DMT or 100 passes on a waterstone, or 100,000,000 passes on a pasted strop? If you know where to stop, the end result is the same.

I, for one, love the DMTs for their speed and ease of use, but I can also see how someone might be turned off by the possibility of "over-doing-it".

The Shapton Professional series is 15mm thick and the 1000 works very well for me. No problems lapping with the D8C 325. I like the Norton as well but with the Shapton you don't have the minor inconvenience of soaking the stone for 15 minutes before you start. I went for the D8E and it is alright for some blades for setting bevels and removing chips but in my experience not for others. I know some guys like to hone with the diamond plates but I don't care for the edges they produce.

Originally Posted by JimmyH-AD

The Shapton Professional series is 15mm thick and the 1000 works very well for me. No problems lapping with the D8C 325. I like the Norton as well but with the Shapton you don't have the minor inconvenience of soaking the stone for 15 minutes before you start. I went for the D8E and it is alright for some blades for setting bevels and removing chips but in my experience not for others. I know some guys like to hone with the diamond plates but I don't care for the edges they produce.

I have found I really like DMT's plates. The D8C certainly is my current go to stone for removing chips from edges and the like.

As I lack the D8EE I will say that for really high quality edges you need more than a D6E that I use. It produces a decent edge on kitchen knives but not a truely seriously sharp edge.

Originally Posted by JimmyH-AD

I know some guys like to hone with the diamond plates but I don't care for the edges they produce.

You tried to shave off of the D8E?!?!?!?



But seriously, I only use them to get the bevel set as fast as possible, usually within 10 passes unless it's a really worn/misused blade. And since I finish the honing progression on higher grit stones, the edge that the DMT produces is wiped away and replaced with a smooooth, evenly mirrored, bevel.

Anyway, if your looking to go the cheapest immediate route possible, sandpaper is always an option. Lots of guys set their bevels on sandpaper and have no need for lower grit stones.