Thread: Stubborn Green Lizard

I'm having a bear of a time honing my B52 cattaraugus green lizard. I think I don't have a good bevel. Been using a shapton 1k, blue cot and y/g escher. Tried three times, each time maybe 75-100 laps on the 1k. Next time I attack I think I'm going to use my 325 DMT to try to break it's will. Is that what people would do, or should I try using some tape to get a more aggresive angle?

Anyone else find these lizards buggers to hone? I had an easier time honing two old W&B wedges for crying out loud.

Yikes, I cringe at the thought of taking that full hollow to a 325 grit diamond plate. You say you're starting at a 1k and then progressing up the chain and the edge isn't working for you. What is the edge doing at or after the 1k that has prompted you to move up to higher grits? Hopefully the way I've worded that question makes sense.

To put it another way, do you feel you have a proper bevel set on the 1k (HHT, TPT or easily shaving arm hair along the entire edge) and then for some weird reason the edge is going backwards on you after the higher grit stones?

Chris L

Originally Posted by Chris L

What is the edge doing at or after the 1k that has prompted you to move up to higher grits?

The edge is mocking me, basically, making comments about my momma and noting that I use nancy boy shaving cream. I hate that damn edge!

No seriously, I'm not very into the formal tests, but it feels like it has some grab on my thumb pad which is what I usually go off of, but I really just advanced because I've never needed to do more at the 1k level so I felt it was time to move on. But it does feel a little different after 1k than the other 10 blades I have that I have competently honed - so I don't think I'm going backwards on the higher grits.

The steel on the Lizards is very hard, but my Norton 1k tackled it fairly easy, after the bevel set she went dancing right along with the high grit Shaptons.... I just got my second one yesterday so I am crossing my fingers that it goes as well...

Originally Posted by gssixgun

The steel on the Lizards is very hard, but my Norton 1k tackled it fairly easy, after the bevel set she went dancing right along with the high grit Shaptons.... I just got my second one yesterday so I am crossing my fingers that it goes as well...

Thanks Glen. Glad to know it wasn't my imagination that it's hard. Did you use tape, or did your Norton just tackle it nekked. And any idea how many swipes on the Norton?

Originally Posted by loueedacat

Thanks Glen. Glad to know it wasn't my imagination that it's hard. Did you use tape, or did your Norton just tackle it nekked. And any idea how many swipes on the Norton?

The first one was basically an NOS so it went to sharp bevel in about 30-40 laps on the 1K..... I tape all my razors 1 layer of 3m electrical......

I am most likely taking the second one to the hones either tonight or tomorrow but it has a few small edges issues that need extra attention, but I will pay attention to lap counts for you and send ya a PM on that....

This is the picture of my stubborn lizard. Anything jump out as to why it's hard to hone? It's got a weird taper at the toe, but that should just require a little rolling x move at the very end of the stroke.

Originally Posted by loueedacat

This is the picture of my stubborn lizard. Anything jump out as to why it's hard to hone? It's got a weird taper at the toe, but that should just require a little rolling x move at the very end of the stroke.

Bah, that toe ain't nothing!

I say spend some real quality time at the 1k grit, double check it with TNT, TPT, and arm hair shave before moving on up. Especially if you have gotten burned several times already.


Also, don't be afraid to put a little weight on that sucker! (Don't lean on it, but don't be afraid)

If I close one eye it looks like a touch of frown. Could be lighting sure.

I have not found a steel hardened enough to prevent the shapton1000 from making a greasy mess. Watch that wave.

It feels like the resistance of 3m helps the edge plow into the stone. If it doesn't; it feels good none the less. I'm glad i heard about tape .thanks

you know, you may be on to something with the frown point, because it feels smooth but not quite right on my cheek. I'll try to lay it flat on the edge and see if I can see any light down the middle. That would explain a lot (and would be a big bummer).