Thread: warp honing

If i have a razor and whilst honing flat using black marker test and one side fully removes marker from heal to toe and the oposite side does'nt remove marker for example either at the heal or toe or say in the middle. Do i use roling stroke method on both sides or just on the side that needs . I normaly roll on both sides not sure if that is nescery?

What kind of razor, Grind??? Smiling???
They really is no set rule, other than the entire edge on both sides has to cross the hone to set an even bevel...

its not a smiling blade it as one part on one side that does'nt quite reach the hone just of the middle the other side makes full contact if i roll both side make contact just wonderd if it would effect the edge if i only rolled on the warped side it is only slight and it is a brand new dovo prima klang

I'm confused! How can one side be warped and the other not? There is either a fault in your honing or the spine is even on one side and wavy on the other! That's the only thing that makes sense to me!
Maybe someone else has an idea.

Originally Posted by gary haywood

its not a smiling blade it as one part on one side that does'nt quite reach the hone just of the middle the other side makes full contact if i roll both side make contact just wonderd if it would effect the edge if i only rolled on the warped side it is only slight and it is a brand new dovo prima klang

I wouldn't roll. A prima klang has a straight edge. There's no rolling needed. Just work on the stubborn side only for a bit. Maybe some back and forth strokes. The last Dovo I saw was just the same, one bevel side reasonably fine, the other bevel side had an obtuser angle. (They lift the spine while setting a bevel at Dovo, to prevent spine-wear). It only takes some patience to correct this.

I've add an article about bevel setting to the Wiki yesterday: Bevel-setting in theory and practice - Straight Razor Place Wiki

Good luck,
Bart.

I had a funny feeling that you were going to say Dovo when I first read the thread...
Bart is dead on, the correction to the uneven sides are fairly easy with either some 1k circles or as Bart said the Japanese style of back and forth honing....

I also make sure that I have just lapped that stone before I start doing bevel corrections...

The thing is when i hone flat this razor one side remove all the marker the other does apart from the middle part but it does actualy make contact as i do the x pattern as the heal leaves the hone the razor does make contact and forms a thinner bevel which is'nt a problem as the shave is good. Lets say the heal or toe does'nt get the hone on one side only which has happend to me on several razors and i have to roll could i roll on one side or would it be best to do both ?

Jms it may sound confusing but that is how it is and maybe i not as clear as i'd like to be as i think it could be to do with the spine i have a brand new ti that is the same if not worse. And like bart says it is probably somthing to do with dovo.

Originally Posted by gary haywood

The thing is when i hone flat this razor one side remove all the marker the other does apart from the middle part but it does actualy make contact as i do the x pattern as the heal leaves the hone the razor does make contact and forms a thinner bevel which is'nt a problem as the shave is good. Lets say the heal or toe does'nt get the hone on one side only which has happend to me on several razors and i have to roll could i roll on one side or would it be best to do both ?

I am quite inexperienced and I have a dovo with pretty much the same behaviour. What I figured was to apply local pressure on the areas which don't make contact, ideally as close as possible to the edge so that the blade won't be bent and change the angle of contact. I even go so far as pressing down right on the bevel with my fingernail. I believe it gives acceptable results. My razor failed contact near the point and the heel, but not in the middle and I worked with much care on the point side, but not as much near the heel since I don't really use that part of the blade. Now the vicinity of the point does pass the HHT and mow arm hair pretty good. I have not shaved yet but it looks promising. I will post if it fails the shave.

I've had several razors exhibit the odd behavior of "being warped on one side"; one side of the blade takes a nice bevel all the way from heal to toe, the other side has sections of the edge that don't even appear to contact the hone at all. Taking Glen's advice of using circles and back and forth strokes (with a bit of pressure) on my DMT 1200 has fixed every one of them. Note that the spine will sometimes show uneven honing wear; some of the spine will look like it hasn't been touched hardly at all, while other parts will loook heavily worn. You can tape the spine if that's gonna bug you, but I never have bothered.

I believe this happens, like Bart mentioned, because they lift the spine at Dovo, and also sometimes do to a slightly uneven grind on one side of the razor.